Mardel Copper Safe

sh2000

sh2000

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Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2494421
Ok hes looking better she says the spots drastically have improved. but she said she did a test after adding tonight 5 ml and she couldnt tell if it was 2 ppm or 4ppm the darn color schemes are so close so she did a 10 percent water change to be on the safe side.then we did a test and it clearly read 2.0 ppm hope its ok as u said earlier better to be at 1.5 ppm but were at 2ppm,but you also said that this mardel test isn't as potent as cupermine. so fingers crossed. anyways thanks sep!

We will name this tang after you "Sir Quizzy"

Sir quizzy is doing great most of the spots off the copper read as 2.0 ppm this morning as it did late last night she will test tonight too, I hope you don't mind her calling her tang "Sir quizzy" she likes the name and I mentioned you were a big help in saving this tang !
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by USC932000
http:///forum/post/2494734
I am using same copper (coppersafe) in a 10g qt and seachem test kit. I tested the tank water and the readings were to the end of the test scale. So I know that the levels are above 1.0 at least. The fish are all doing well with no signs of stress. Today is day 4 of the treatment and so far all is well. Per coppersafe, the copper will be in a stable state between 1.5.-2.0ppm.
My question to all is whats a safe ppm while using copper? I know this is a broad question, so a guestiment is understandable.
For Coppersafe the level is 1.5-2.0ppm For Cupramine the level is .5ppm.
Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2494751
Sir quizzy is doing great most of the spots off the copper read as 2.0 ppm this morning as it did late last night she will test tonight too, I hope you don't mind her calling her tang "Sir quizzy" she likes the name and I mentioned you were a big help in saving this tang !

I am glad that he is doing so well! I will tell my Sir Quizzy, the falco hawk in my avatar, that he has a namesake. He will be honored
 
sh2000

sh2000

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update its been 5 days with copper treatment but little improvment still visable white spots all ove rthe body face and fins of this tang..the PH is in there and the copper has bean stable at 2.0 ppm for 5 days using mardel copper-safe. any reason torasie the level or after 5 days this is normal to still see spots ?
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2497806
update its been 5 days with copper treatment but little improvment still visable white spots all ove rthe body face and fins of this tang..the PH is in there and the copper has bean stable at 2.0 ppm for 5 days using mardel copper-safe. any reason torasie the level or after 5 days this is normal to still see spots ?
Copper does not affect ich until it drops off of the fish. They stay attached for 3-7 days. It is not abnormal for spots to still be on him. Don't raise the level.
 
sh2000

sh2000

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is ich and ick the same thing i dont know what her tang has it just has white spots on the body fins and face color is normal fish is easting well and accepting all foods looks happy not trying to slide on rocks to get the parasites off and it breathing and swimming fine copper is at 2.0 since monday slowly the spots are improving. i guess well just wait for now. thanks
 
usc932000

usc932000

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Continue the treatment for at least another week, some may suggest even longer. Remember that she is also trying to kill the Ich in her DT. If the tang is doing well and is not stressing in the QT, there is no need to rush. Also when she does return the Tang to the DT, she should slow drip acclimate the Tang.
 
chrgerondavins

chrgerondavins

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no, treat ich for 4 weeks MINIMUM. BTW, I used coppersafe, Mine is about 2.5 ppm in my 90 gal fowlr perminantly until my carbon removes it (awhile haha).
The ONLY fish affected by it so far have been porcupine and spiny box puffers, everybody else including my dogface are happy as anything. I am going to continue to dose AT LEAST 2.0 ppm of copper in that tank for all eternity, as I have read that as long as I don't have either of those puffers, sit will help as ich preventative.
As for my reef tank, I cannot do that and all fish will be QT'd for 4-6 weeks before entering, fish that go in the 90 gal will be QT'd for only 2 weeks for fungus.
 
sh2000

sh2000

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ill tell her 1 more week of copper at 2.0 ppm then to drip acclimate this tang "sir quizzy" into her DT.
 
sh2000

sh2000

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SEP, Did I mention to you that you helped saved her tang which is a beauty purple tang aka "sir quizzy" she said to thank you alot.
 
usc932000

usc932000

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The drip acclimation is to get the Tang acclimated to the DT water params. The Tang would have been in a medicated tank for 3-4 weeks. So its best to slowly acclimate the fish to normal params.
Are there any other fish in the DT?
 
usc932000

usc932000

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Ok, was this Tang originally in the DT with the rest of the fish or is it a new addition?
If the Tang was in the DT originally and showed signs of Ich while in the tank, she may risk the chance of introducing it back into an Ich environment.
It (ich) may be dormant if no other fish are showing signs, but because the tank didnt go fallow while the Tang was in QT, the Ich may still be in the tank
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2498369
is ich and ick the same thing i dont know what her tang has it just has white spots on the body fins and face color is normal fish is easting well and accepting all foods looks happy not trying to slide on rocks to get the parasites off and it breathing and swimming fine copper is at 2.0 since monday slowly the spots are improving. i guess well just wait for now. thanks

Ich and ick are the same thing.
Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2499466
ill tell her 1 more week of copper at 2.0 ppm then to drip acclimate this tang "sir quizzy" into her DT.
The fish has to be in copper for three weeks minimum after the copper has reached the therapeutic level.
Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2499478
SEP, Did I mention to you that you helped saved her tang which is a beauty purple tang aka "sir quizzy" she said to thank you alot.

Post some pics of Sir Quizzy when he is feeling better! She is more than welcome

Originally Posted by USC932000
http:///forum/post/2500496
Ok, was this Tang originally in the DT with the rest of the fish or is it a new addition?
If the Tang was in the DT originally and showed signs of Ich while in the tank, she may risk the chance of introducing it back into an Ich environment.
It (ich) may be dormant if no other fish are showing signs, but because the tank didnt go fallow while the Tang was in QT, the Ich may still be in the tank
I absolutely agree here. If the fish was in the display with ich then ich is in her display.
 
sh2000

sh2000

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ill pass on the info...and get some pics from her she might have snet me a pic or two ill check,
 
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