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post #1 of 14
2/4/09 at 9:21am
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Is it possible to do this if you have a long enough tank?

I have been fooling around with the Idea to make a tank in my basement, But the Idea is to make it long enough that I can actually have the sand gradually rise up to a beach at one end and Deep water at the other (Almost Glass)

Has this been done in the Tank field? and is this possible Or will this end up lik 1 of them sandpicturs where the waves or pumps will just even out the sand?
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post #2 of 14
2/4/09 at 6:32pm
That sounds very interesting, but i'm not sure how it could be done. I'm pretty sure that there are some public aquariums that have done something similar for some animals like mud skippers. IMO you would have to come up with some sort of binding agent to mix with the sand that you are going to have pushed up to create the 'beach' so that it does not errode and end up evening out. Maybe if the sand is super compacted like on an actual beach it would help, but even then they have to dredge every so often the replentish the beach.

Again - sounds like a really cool idea, but not sure how it could be done.
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post #3 of 14
2/5/09 at 1:38am
well i guess if you put at least one powerhead right at the bottom of the tank to constantly putting out flow that pushes the sand back towards the beach and the sand is heavy enough that it doesnt cloud the tank?
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post #4 of 14
2/5/09 at 5:53am
long and shallow. I can see it being done in a room length tank that's not very deep. But to get the wave maker and sand just right would be a nightmare. Plus deep sand beds are a bad thing anyways. So the chemistry would be pretty impractical in a home environment. Nice Idea though.
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post #5 of 14
2/5/09 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by King_Neptune View Post
long and shallow. I can see it being done in a room length tank that's not very deep. But to get the wave maker and sand just right would be a nightmare. Plus deep sand beds are a bad thing anyways. So the chemistry would be pretty impractical in a home environment. Nice Idea though.
I was thinking about that. and I think I found a temp solution for that.

Use Created rock Leading up to the Beach area. I figure I can make the rock in to any shape i need and Interlock them all to create a nice slope w/ Pivots to keep the sand. This is more Natural to real earth and the earth is not all sand. Could prob use Merical Mud to to compact most of it so the sand would not fall through.
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post #6 of 14
2/5/09 at 10:41am
Or make the slope part form eggcrate and polyfoam. Then you could attach sand permenately to it. Do the back fill at the beach with sand.
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post #7 of 14
2/5/09 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by spanko View Post
Or make the slope part form eggcrate and polyfoam. Then you could attach sand permenately to it. Do the back fill at the beach with sand.
Foam would be good. and lite. And a very good Idea. All I would have to do is pour the foam in to the tank while at an angle. Then cote it with sand prior to it drying. That may just work.
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post #8 of 14
2/5/09 at 11:33am
Originally Posted by King_Neptune View Post
long and shallow. I can see it being done in a room length tank that's not very deep. But to get the wave maker and sand just right would be a nightmare. Plus deep sand beds are a bad thing anyways. So the chemistry would be pretty impractical in a home environment. Nice Idea though.
Just a question - why do you say that 'deep sand beds are a bad thing anyways?' The only problem that I have ever seen on here is if they are disterbed they can release a lot of amonia into the tank, but a lot of people have them either in their DT's, in a fuge, or in a remote DSB.
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post #9 of 14
2/5/09 at 11:54am
It is driving me crazy there is an advanced hobbyist who has in fact published information on just such a system (I will find it to day)
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post #10 of 14
2/5/09 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by florida joe View Post
It is driving me crazy there is an advanced hobbyist who has in fact published information on just such a system (I will find it to day)

Sry Joe. No need to bang your head. (Unless you are listening to Quiet Riot.)
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post #11 of 14
2/5/09 at 12:02pm
Joe sometimes you even scare me oh I am Joe.

See if you can research a Morgan Lidster or Inland Aquatics in Terre Haute Indiana also Adey and Loveland I believe did some work on a system like that in 1991
Quite riot my friend you are dating yourself
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post #12 of 14
2/5/09 at 12:06pm
Originally Posted by forcrz6 View Post
Foam would be good. and lite. And a very good Idea. All I would have to do is pour the foam in to the tank while at an angle. Then cote it with sand prior to it drying. That may just work.
PLEASE PLEASE as i have said before do your homework on foam It has great application benefits but very specific curing needs for either the structural or cavity filling kind
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post #13 of 14
2/5/09 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by florida joe View Post
PLEASE PLEASE as i have said before do your homework on foam It has great application benefits but very specific curing needs for either the structural or cavity filling kind
Oh I know. Believe me I know.


And no Quiet riot does not date me.

The Pictures with the 85 camaro and the mullet date me.


Oh Wait I wasn't suppose to say that.
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post #14 of 14
2/12/09 at 2:49pm
Originally Posted by King_Neptune View Post
long and shallow. I can see it being done in a room length tank that's not very deep. But to get the wave maker and sand just right would be a nightmare. Plus deep sand beds are a bad thing anyways. So the chemistry would be pretty impractical in a home environment. Nice Idea though.
Deep sand are bad???? Where did you hear that? On the other end they are better than shallow beds. I went with a 5" or 6" sand bed in mine. Cost more money but wanted to do it right.
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