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If so what would I need?

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Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.

 

Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.

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Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.

 

Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.



What kind of pump do I need?  what size sump?  I am new to this.

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Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.

 

Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.



I have a 125g.  What model do you have?

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I believe I have the CPR CS 102, but it might be the 202, I honestly don't even remember anymore, but I'm fairly certain it's the 102.

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I bought a Sea Life Systems Pro wet/dry sump......came with everything...overflow, tubes.....just not the return pump

I think they are now called reefmasters or something like that

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I bought a Sea Life Systems Pro wet/dry sump......came with everything...overflow, tubes.....just not the return pump

I think they are now called reefmasters or something like that


Eshoppes makes one that is similar. I had the Eshoppes, it's a PITA. Every time the power goes out or you need to do any sort of maitenance, you have to restart the siphon. The Eshoppes model also caused my floor to be soggy quite a few times.

The CPR has an airlift so the siphon is contant regardless, it's also a slimmer design inside the tank than most models, my Eshoppes, the fish and snails could get into no matter what I did.

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I bought a Sea Life Systems Pro wet/dry sump......came with everything...overflow, tubes.....just not the return pump

I think they are now called reefmasters or something like that



I am looking at a magazine right now and found the overflow.  Is it wise to go bigger then my tank.  I mean my tank is 125g, should I get the one rated for  up to 125g, or go bigger with the one rated up to 175g or go bigger and get the one rated for up to 250g.

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I am looking at a magazine right now and found the overflow.  Is it wise to go bigger then my tank.  I mean my tank is 125g, should I get the one rated for  up to 125g, or go bigger with the one rated up to 175g or go bigger and get the one rated for up to 250g.

 

I would get the one that is rated for 175, that should be fine. A lot depends on what return pump you're planning on using. The overflows are rated for a certain amount of GPH you have to make sure that your pump matches that and isn't too much.
 

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I would get the one that is rated for 175, that should be fine. A lot depends on what return pump you're planning on using. The overflows are rated for a certain amount of GPH you have to make sure that your pump matches that and isn't too much.
 



Yeah....what she said....LOL.....

 

The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL

 

BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot

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Yeah....what she said....LOL.....

 

The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL

 

BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot

Is it one of the "U" shaped siphons? Those are a PITA! That's what the Eshoppes, and most models are, which is why I went with the CPR, that and I was tired of the flooding from the damn snail getting in the Eshoppes.
 

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Yeah....what she said....LOL.....

 

The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL

 

BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot



I am trying to find a sump but not sure what to look for.  Can you send me liks of ones that would suit me.  Please......

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I am trying to find a sump but not sure what to look for.  Can you send me liks of ones that would suit me.  Please......


I still have my Eshoppes sump and I love it, just hated the overflow for it.

Honestly, all sumps are basically the same, you could even do as large of a tank as will fit under your stand. I've even seen/used rubbermaid bins.

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Is it one of the "U" shaped siphons? Those are a PITA! That's what the Eshoppes, and most models are, which is why I went with the CPR, that and I was tired of the flooding from the damn snail getting in the Eshoppes.
 



LOL...My overflow is a dual....so it has 2 of the U tubes......As I said before....never had an issue....

 

what's the difference with a cpr????

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What happens when there is a power outage?

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What happens when there is a power outage?



The lights go out

 

 

 

 

nothing......the water will fill up in the sump to where you have it tuned   (do not ask me to explain)    the water will stay in the overflow and tubes....when the power comes on it just flows again.......at least mine does

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LOL...My overflow is a dual....so it has 2 of the U tubes......As I said before....never had an issue....

 

what's the difference with a cpr????


The CPR is sleeker in the tank and then it acts as a waterful basically, the airlifter pulls the water from the tank, into the hang on box. It's a dual system only if it has two bulk heads, instead of the two U's the most other systems have. Google the look, it's so different. I think they have a video of how it works too, it's so hard to explain. Honestly, now that I have a CPR, I wouldn't go back to a "regular" hang on overflow box.

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What happens when there is a power outage?


Mine would always loose the suction in the U siphoning tube.

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If you check out CPR's website they have a video of how it works. 

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I just watched the video.....and still not 100% sure how it works.....do you have to run the pump on it all the time???

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