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Do bubble corals split??

post #1 of 94
6/26/11 at 12:35pm
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Well the question is in the title...LOL....here are the pics to go with it.   Obviously I am talking about the piece at the bottom of the large head.  

 

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post #2 of 94
6/26/11 at 2:39pm

shrug.gif wow..I have never seen that before...are you sure it wasn't attacked by something? It looks like it's healthy enough for the small frag to live on...you always have corals do the weirdest stuff...I remember some zoa jumping off the rocks edge...that was you wasn't it?

 

 

okay I did a quick google search...seems you can stress the rock and force a split...maybe for some reason the rock under broke and forced it to split. It looks like it's on the edge of another rock in the picture and maybe it had nowhere else to grow out.

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post #3 of 94
6/26/11 at 2:44pm
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LOL....you probably remember things better then me....I am not remembering a jumping zoa at the moment

 

NO I am sure it has not been attacked....It definitely looks like it is "splitting" though...I have never seen this either

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post #4 of 94
6/26/11 at 10:43pm

Well, do bubble corals reproduce by budding?  does it look like there is a skeleton under the little part?  I would like to know so I can watch our bubble for similar signs.  When did you notice s this?  did it happen over night?

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post #5 of 94
6/27/11 at 5:47am

some good information on budding  and a picture here.

 

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2010/4/corals/document_view

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post #6 of 94
6/27/11 at 6:50am
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Thanks Henry...I will read it in depth later (just scanned it so farLOL)   

 

Monsi....I have noticed the growth, BUT it just recently has become so "defined"

 

OH and I have not looked close enough to see a skeleton....I will try to examine it further tonight

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post #7 of 94
6/27/11 at 8:58am

So this happened over time.  I wont find a new piece of coral when I wake up in the morning eh?  LOL

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post #8 of 94
6/27/11 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by Monsinour View Post

So this happened over time.  I wont find a new piece of coral when I wake up in the morning eh?  LOL



LOL....don't think so.....I thought it was part of the original bubble...well it is....kinda

 

Then In the last 2 days I have noticed that it looks to be "splitting"   so this new growth is NOT exactly new

 

OH YEAH....I thought this would be interesting.....this is what the coral looked like at one point...LOL...I did a good job saving itbigg.gif

 

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post #9 of 94
6/27/11 at 10:25am

ha, looks like a xenia when it's making more of itself

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post #10 of 94
6/27/11 at 10:30am

don't quote me on this and I may be wrong but...... Lol... love that but MUHAHAAAa, anyways, I believe the bubble corals grow more of the membranious tissue and detach float off and grow. Basically they bud and fall down and grows on the sand or substrate.

Looks as if yours has grown or budded and is getting ready to break off to form a new seperate bubble coral.

What I don't understand or see is how and when does it grow another skeleton. HMMMMM

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post #11 of 94
6/27/11 at 10:38am

From the article posted above.

 

"The first form of asexual reproduction is "budding", which can be seen when a small growth arises from the lower edge of a specimen's flesh. This growth can increase in size over time, and can eventually develop a small skeleton of its own. As it gets larger and heavier it will sag down, and eventually drop away, coming to rest somewhere and attaching to the substrate (Borneman 2001 and Fossa & Nilsen 1998). In aquariums, hobbyists can often speed things up a bit by clipping off buds before they drop, and can then place them in an appropriate location.

While this sort of budding is also typical of many other types of coral, the second method these particular species employ is quite unusual. Unlike many other corals with similar skeletal structures, the flesh of the bubble corals can wrap up and over the top of the skeleton and sometimes all the way down the sides, too. When it does, the soft tissue can actually spread out and over adjacent areas of substrate, as well. Then, such extensions of tissue can, at times, give rise to a whole new coral (Borneman 2001)."

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post #12 of 94
6/27/11 at 10:43am

just saw the article. where in "Posiden" do you find these articles!?!?!?!!! Lol.... Oh wait........ so I was almost right then. Now if i can only keep one from dying on me!1 UURRRGGGGG

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post #13 of 94
6/27/11 at 11:11am
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HEY HENRY....my bubble has come a long way...hasn't it LOL

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post #14 of 94
6/27/11 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by Kiefers View Post

just saw the article. where in "Posiden" do you find these articles!?!?!?!!! Lol.... Oh wait........ so I was almost right then. Now if i can only keep one from dying on me!1 UURRRGGGGG



I read a lot, a real lot.



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HEY HENRY....my bubble has come a long way...hasn't it LOL


You have done excellent in the care of the creature. Well done.

 

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post #15 of 94
6/27/11 at 1:03pm

One of my bubbles that almost died and has come back from the brink of death had a small little head forming on the side of the old skeleton, about an inch away from the healthy tissue.  It looked alot like Meowzers but was growing out of the dead part of the skeleton rather than splitting off.   Yesterday I noticed it just disappeared.  It doesn't follow the info that Spanko posted but I have no idea where it went.  Nothing has been picking at it, it looked really healthy then it was just gone overnight.  Is it possible it just floated off somewhere in the tank?  It didn't have it's own skeleton that I could see.  So many mysteries in our little oceans.

 

Yours lookes great Meowzer!!   I will be very interested to see what happens with it.

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post #16 of 94
6/27/11 at 1:42pm

Hey Henry, I like reading but they need more how to videos! JMO

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post #17 of 94
6/27/11 at 3:10pm

How to on what? There are also a ton of vids out there.

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post #18 of 94
6/27/11 at 4:38pm
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How to on what? There are also a ton of vids out there.



well that there opens them doors wide open my teacher..... Lol. Caring for corals fish and yada yada

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post #19 of 94
6/28/11 at 3:26am
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Originally Posted by spanko View Post

How to on what? There are also a ton of vids out there.



I was wondering the same thing.

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post #20 of 94
6/28/11 at 3:33am
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Originally Posted by Kiefers View Post





well that there opens them doors wide open my teacher..... Lol. Caring for corals fish and yada yada


good god, there is nothing more boring than listen to some guy drone on and on about how to care for fish, especially when he is providing mostly stuff you know. I hate watching a 10 minute video that only provides 3 seconds of new information. thats a whole 9 minutes and 57 seconds wasted.  with reading the same 10 minute speech can be skimmed, and only dig in and really focus on the new stuff, saved 8 minutes.....

 

but if you dig videos there are a bunch listed on this site for coral propagation. with probably the most boring person in the world doing the propagation......

http://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/291625/links-to-all-my-fragging-propagation-threads

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