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I now see two Coral Banded Shrimps in my tank.

post #1 of 20
12/16/11 at 5:53am
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I woke this morning to find two Coral Banded Shrimps in my tank. Now I know that some may say that this this is the molten shrimp but why are both of them eating? What I cannot believe is that the newer one has large claws but not as big as the parent. How did that happen? I need answers fast.

 

 
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post #2 of 20
12/16/11 at 7:11am

If its not the molt of the first one, how long has the one you know of been in the tank? My guess of how the second one got in the tank is you just added LR and was in the rock. Last if these are left together the may fight and you will end up with none. Need to remove one.

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post #3 of 20
12/16/11 at 7:59am
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OK I was mistaken. It is the molten state. I thought that the shrimp after leaving its shelf would have no color. My new question does quick ich work? I am havng serious problems with my blue hippo tang which have bad case of ich
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post #4 of 20
12/16/11 at 8:15am

No! ick can only be killed by two methods copper or hypo, both will kill your shrimp and should not be done in your DT. You will need to set up a QT. Go to the disease form the post at the top by Beth has directions on how to set up a QT and direction on how to eradicate ick. If not treated ick will over power your fish and it will die.

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post #5 of 20
12/16/11 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. Limpid View Post

No! ick can only be killed by two methods copper or hypo, both will kill your shrimp and should not be done in your DT. You will need to set up a QT. Go to the disease form the post at the top by Beth has directions on how to set up a QT and direction on how to eradicate ick. If not treated ick will over power your fish and it will die.



Yep, I agree. IMO, all ich products on the market today are 100% not effective, unless they are copper based. Even then, doing hyposalinity (lowering the concentration of the salinity in your tank) is less stressful on the fish. Just make sure to set up a QT (Quarantine Tank) first.

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post #6 of 20
12/17/11 at 4:39am
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Now that I have committed my fish to hyposalinity and have given a brief freshwater exposure (Three minutes each) there seem to be a huge amount of the ich larvae especially on my Blue Hippo who seems to be swimming sluggishly. Is this the reaction after the treatment has been administered? My hydrometer reads only to 1.018. Could it be that I have lowered the salt concentration too low because even my yellow tang is somewhat on the white side. Please respond ASAP to what I should do after treatment and what to expect in the fish's reaction. Thank you.
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post #7 of 20
12/17/11 at 4:45am
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Oh by the way, could Ich blind my fish? I see my Blue Hippo swimming into the glass at times and there seem to be Ich larvae on his eyes as well. Please help me in this situation because I don't want to lose my expensive fish so easily. Thank you all once more.
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post #8 of 20
12/17/11 at 6:40am
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My Blue Hippo Expired today. :(
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post #9 of 20
12/17/11 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by Christian-Fella View Post

My Blue Hippo Expired today. :(


Ich kills by infecting the gills. I haven't read your entire thread. I noticed Hippo tang expired and took a peek....sorry for the loss. Hippo tangs are easily stressed and that makes them a kind of ich magnet. Just about everything causes them stress, from a new home to water changes and everything in between. They need a large tank and lots of rock to hide in. The freshwater treatment is stressful as well. If ich is in the tank, they get it first, and so suffer the worst of it.

 

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post #10 of 20
12/17/11 at 7:12am

Did you move your fish to a quarantine tank? Do not try hypo in the main tank, you will kill all the live rock and sand and any snails or inverts in the tank.

 

I had ich years ago in my 90g reef, and no tank large enough for all my fish (hippo tang included)...the ich meds for a reef do not work but make the inverts and coral sick looking. I decided to give up on those "cures" but try giving my fish fresh garlic juice soaked shrimp chunks, it helps to build their immunity up. I did very careful water changes trying not to stress the fish. I did not add any new fish for fear that the new would be stressed and get infected and then it would spread like fire.

 

After a year of no outbreaks, I never had another problem with it. I did learn that a simple QT for new fish would have saved me all kinds of heartaches. I have since moved the tank to my new home 3 years ago (moving is very stressful), to date not one ich spot.

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post #11 of 20
12/23/11 at 2:40am
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I have lost both my Blue Hippo and Yellow Tang. Now I purchased a Valentini Puffer (aka Black Saddle Puffer) fish who seems to be not eating after I had introduced two clams to it. I now see that the abdomen of the puffer is somewhat swollen. What could be the issue here? All the pet shops around says that my water is completely ligit. Can someone please help out this saltwater beginner? Thanks.
 
 
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post #12 of 20
12/23/11 at 5:43am

did the fish store sell you that puffer knowing there is ich in the tank? if so do not ever go back there again.the tank needs to be fish free for 6 weeks for the ich to die off.i have had a couple puffers over the years and i noticed if they keep their tail curled up to their body tight they are dying.i would take the puffer back and leave the tank empty of fish for 6 weeks.the inverts and corals can stay .

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post #13 of 20
1/8/12 at 12:55pm
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Good day all and thanks for your assistance with my fish tank. I have noticed that my fish tank also needed to come with a protein skimmer which I did not have. It seems to be doing much better since I lost my two tangs and my puffer. I now have a Undulated Trigger but my Clown fish was never affected through this whole ordeal. He is kicking about like a champion. A very hearty fish I must say. I now need advice in how to maintain my tank with the protein skimmer. I met a gentleman who is trying to get rid of his 75 gallon tank and said that he had his two tomato clowns for two years without changing the water in his tank. (He has a ridiculous filtration system with R.O. water return of course) They tank looked jacked up but these two clown are doing very well. I was going to ask him for his clowns but I am sure they won't mesh well with mine who seems to be very agressive. What do you think?

 

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post #14 of 20
1/9/12 at 5:11am

I was told tomato clowns are particularly aggressive and don't play well with others. they are cool though

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post #15 of 20
1/9/12 at 12:07pm

Did you cycle your tank before you put in your fish??

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post #16 of 20
1/9/12 at 12:18pm

An Undulated Trigger is perhaps one of the most violent fish that you can get.  Your clown is going to be a snack one day.  Do you have corals in the tank?  I would return that fish ASAP.  He will also kill every invert in your tank (most triggers and puffers will).  Did you tell the place you bought him you had a clown?  If so never go back.  They either don't know what they are talking about or they are just yessing you to death to sell you anything.  How big is this tank?

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post #17 of 20
1/9/12 at 1:01pm
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No corals but I do have a coral banded shrimp. He seem to be getting along with the Clown who tends to be aggressive as well. Can you comment on the protein skimmer as well?

 

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post #18 of 20
1/9/12 at 1:21pm

Protein Skimmer is always a good idea but it is not going to replace doing water changes.  I definitely recommend it.  For fish only it is a good idea for reef it is pretty much a necessity.  The clown may be holding his own now but that trigger is going to kill it.  It is just a matter of time.

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post #19 of 20
1/9/12 at 2:22pm
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So what should I do? I can't return it to the store!

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post #20 of 20
1/9/12 at 2:42pm

i would .those are like a clown trigger ,pretty fish but nasty and recomended to be kept by itself.and for good reason

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