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pros and cons of coral beauty and flame angel?

post #1 of 98
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Im not sure which one i want! please help me decide if I should get a coral beauty or a flame angel for my 29 gallon biocube. please just give me  the pros and cons of both ::) thx

post #2 of 98

Personally.....and this is only my opinion.....I would not put either of those in a 29G....I actually own both in a 225G and if yo usaw how active they are and how much grazing they do you would understand

 

NOW let me say again....This is JMO

post #3 of 98
Thread Starter 

ok thx but jw what the pros and cons of both are

post #4 of 98

I fully agree with Meowzer.

 

Con for each: Your tank is too small to support either.

 

If you must have one, Coral Beauties are easier to care for than Flames and don't get as large as flames do. Coral Beauties have a better "reef safe" rating. Flames usually aren't bad, but there are more instances of them nipping at corals that with CB's

post #5 of 98

I hate to type this but I too agree. However, there are other alternatives with the angels. You can get a pygmy angle, or an african flameback. They are smaller that the dwafs and are reef safe, or safer. I had one

 

in my biocube for some time before upgrading.

 

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keep in mind tho..... these are small but have big personalities and attitudes, ADD LAST!

post #6 of 98

Well, I'm going to disagree with you guys. My book agrees with me...A 30g/29g tank is more than enough room for any dwarf/pygmy (same thing) angel fish. They are not like the tangs that need swim space. These little fish enjoy hanging out in the rocks swimming in and out all day long. They don't require space to swim, just lots of rocks with swim through caves. Algae sheets to nip at all day, and you have a happy fish. They also keep algae down...even hair algae.

 

I put my bid in for getting a Lemonpeel dwarf angel...LOL..all the others have already been mentioned.

post #7 of 98
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same!

post #8 of 98

A book is good to a point.....I just added my opinion based on what I see in my own tank......I read a lot and also have that same book......BUT......things don't always work out in real life as it does in print

post #9 of 98
Thread Starter 

yes but im leaning towards the coral beauty!

post #10 of 98

I disagree with your book, just food for thought, these books are from several thousand years ago (okay, just a little exageration). Meow is correct by saying real life is not the same as print. None the less, Dwarf/pygmy Angels are not the same thing, if you by chance you put a Dwarf in the 29 gallon, you may run a risk of it getting agressive in such a small space. JME

I will agree however that these fish do enjoy swimming in/out of rock work.

 


Edited by Kiefers - 1/24/12 at 10:16pm
post #11 of 98

My biggest concern about a dwarf angel in a 29G is the amount of established rock work for them to graze off of. They are grazers and they NEED to graze off the live rock all day. A lot of times a 29G just doesn't provide that for them.

IMO, a Coral Beauty or most dwarf angels is much more likely to be aggressive or nip at corals in a smaller tank. I noticed that my coral beauty became MUCH calmer once I moved her from a 40G to a 155G.

post #12 of 98

How old is the op's set up? I believe I missed it.

post #13 of 98
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lfs said I could have flame angel but they said coral beauty might get too aggresive and its been up for about 2 months

post #14 of 98

what do you have in the cube now?

Just a 411, you should and would want to add the Angel last, seriously, if you decide later on to put something else in the cube, it will fight with whatever you add. The Angels establish a territory and will establish your whole tank as it's own. When you add another fish it will defend it and hit it hard. Just a thought for you to ponder on.

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lfs said I could have flame angel but they said coral beauty might get too aggresive and its been up for about 2 months



That's ridiculous. They want you to buy a flame because it's more money. Flames are notoriously harder to care for, more aggressive and grow larger. They're also a deeper water species than the Coral Beauty and would fair poorly in a small, shallow cube.

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That's ridiculous. They want you to buy a flame because it's more money. Flames are notoriously harder to care for, more aggressive and grow larger. They're also a deeper water species than the Coral Beauty and would fair poorly in a small, shallow cube.



wow Tommie, tell us how you really feel there why don't ya? Lol

 

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wow Tommie, tell us how you really feel there why don't ya? Lol

 



LOL.

Well, I hate stupid sales people!

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LOL.

Well, I hate stupid sales people!


I'm still not convinced that the CB would be okay in a 29 Gallon tank. Educate me. aren't there two types of CB's? One is from fiji that do get a bit larger than the one from Hawaii correct?
 

 

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I'm still not convinced that the CB would be okay in a 29 Gallon tank. Educate me. aren't there two types of CB's? One is from fiji that do get a bit larger than the one from Hawaii correct?
 

 



I'm not convinced either. The only dwarfs I'd recommend is the African Flameback or the Cherub because they're the smaller/less aggressive. To me, even they are a stretch in a 29G and I certainly wouldn't put one in a 2 month old tank. But the OP seems to only want a CB or Flame, neither of which I think is a good idea in a nano IMO.

 

Different types of CB's? Not that I'm aware. Flames on the other hand are dependent on where they are collected, especially when considering coloration and the Hawaiian ones are usually slightly bigger, but not that noticeably larger, it's really more about color with them and different collection sites.

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Originally Posted by Kiefers View Post

I disagree with your book, just food for thought, these books are from several thousand years ago (okay, just a little exageration). Meow is correct by saying real life is not the same as print. None the less, Dwarf/pygmy Angels are not the same thing, if you by chance you put a Dwarf in the 29 gallon, you may run a risk of it getting agressive in such a small space. JME

I will agree however that these fish do enjoy swimming in/out of rock work.

 


I was referring to size when I said same thing. I know books are not the equal of real life experiance. I have always kept dwarf angels. They stay close to the rocks and swim in and out. A 30g tank is big enough as long as the fish has the caves it needs to keep it happy. They do indeed like to nip at algae, in fact if I get even a hint of hair algae on a rock in my SH tank I give the rock to the 90g for my lemonpeel to clear off, it's free food.

 

They are also ticky fish, and you need good stable parameters....if the tank water goes bad, they will be the first casualty.

 

I will admit I never overstock a tank, crowding SW fish of any species is just asking for trouble....they get mean. In a 30g tank I would keep a dwarf angel and an Orchid dottyback and a couple of cleaner shrimp and snails.

 

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