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Ordered some Reef chromis!

post #1 of 56
2/6/12 at 7:28am
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Finally some fish for the 90g ...I ordered 5 of the Blue Reef Chromis, and I treated myself to a ruffled yellow leather coral. I will post pictures when they arrive..party.gif

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post #2 of 56
2/6/12 at 10:28am

I wish all the best, I never had good luck with chromis.

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post #3 of 56
2/6/12 at 10:33am
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I wish all the best, I never had good luck with chromis.



 I was told they were pretty hardy..I hope they do well, I ordered 5 becauseIi want a school of fish.

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post #4 of 56
2/6/12 at 11:49am



 

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 I was told they were pretty hardy..I hope they do well, I ordered 5 becauseIi want a school of fish.



I have 5 chromis for my 125 and love the movement and when they school.  I started out with 7 and 5 made it out of QT (one died after a day, the other made it about a month).  I heard that they don't ship well and some might have a bruise on their side.  I went to a LFS to pick mine up and they said that any with the bruising are not going to make it. 

 

Good luck!!!  They should love the 90g

 

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post #5 of 56
2/6/12 at 2:01pm
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I have 5 chromis for my 125 and love the movement and when they school.  I started out with 7 and 5 made it out of QT (one died after a day, the other made it about a month).  I heard that they don't ship well and some might have a bruise on their side.  I went to a LFS to pick mine up and they said that any with the bruising are not going to make it. 

 

Good luck!!!  They should love the 90g

 



 

Not so much the shipping, it's the method in which they are collected on the reef. They gas them and a lot of them never recover and die shortly after being intro into our systems.
 

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 I was told they were pretty hardy..I hope they do well, I ordered 5 becauseIi want a school of fish.


From personal experience you can expect to lose 1/3 to 1/2 your order on a good day and most of your order on a bad one. I ordered 15 and 1 died in a day 2 more within a week and 2 more within a couple days of that. Left me with 10 that have been alive for ~5 months now.

 

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post #6 of 56
2/6/12 at 2:03pm

Good luck!

I've never had good luck with them...

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post #7 of 56
2/6/12 at 2:25pm
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Not so much the shipping, it's the method in which they are collected on the reef. They gas them and a lot of them never recover and die shortly after being intro into our systems.
 


From personal experience you can expect to lose 1/3 to 1/2 your order on a good day and most of your order on a bad one. I ordered 15 and 1 died in a day 2 more within a week and 2 more within a couple days of that. Left me with 10 that have been alive for ~5 months now.

 


If I had known that I would not have gotten them. I had the same problem with anthias...I landed up with one.
 

 

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post #8 of 56
2/6/12 at 2:29pm
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This is what i read about them...

 

 

Blue Chromis

The Blue Chromis is a member of the damselfishes and given their hardy nature they can be a good choice for a saltwater beginner. In fact, many hobbyists use them to cycle new tanks (not recommended). They need to be in small schools (shoals) of 6 or more and are a very active fish.

 

They are a brilliant blue color with a black outline along the bottom of the dorsal fin and around the caudal fin.

 

Blue Chromis should do well in most tank setups, but you don't want to keep them with overly aggressive tank mates or fish large enough to eat them. Keep them in a small school and they should do fine. You may notice a pecking order develop among the Blue Chromis school and that is normal behavior. The Blue Chromis is sometimes sold as a "dither fish" because it is out in the open so much and it makes the shy fish in your tank more at ease.

 

Blue Chromis eat zooplankton in the wild and will accept most types of marine fish food including frozen, freeze dried, vitamin enriched flakes and live foods. Give them a variety of foods for optimal coloration.

They seem to be fairly disease resistant but you still need to take proper pre-cautions and use a quarantine tank before introducing them into your main tank.

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post #9 of 56
2/6/12 at 4:13pm

These fish are usually captured with cyanide

 

Source: petstoreabuse.com

 

 

 

CYANIDE FISHING
 
      When the ornamental fish trade in the Philippines began in 1952, the fish were caught with cotton nets and traps. Collectors knew the behavior of each fish they would catch and used that to their advantage.
 
      In 1962, a fish collector named Gonzales began to use the chemical compound sodium cyanide to stun fish, making them easy to capture. It has been suggested that Gonzales learned to use the cyanide from reading a 1958 fish toxicant study done by the Fish and Wildlife service in the US.
 
      Since the sixties, the use of cyanide has spread through the Philippines to Indonesia and other marine collection areas. According to reports from the WWF, every year over 6000 cyanide divers squirt an estimated 150,000 kg of dissolved poison on some 33 million coral heads.
 
      To make the cyanide solution, collectors mix crushed cyanide tablets (provided by unscrupulous exporters) with saltwater in a squeeze bottle. The solution is then squirted into coral reefs where fish are hiding. Fish are stunned and disorientated, some go into spasms, making them easily gathered. In some cases, however, the fishermen have to use crowbars to pry coral heads apart and retrieve the stunned fish.
 
THE EFFECTS OF CYANIDE POISONING
 
      Fish are approximately one thousand times more sensitive to cyanide than are humans. Dose levels as low as 0.03 mg/L HCN can be ultimately fatal to sensitive species, while 0.2 mg/L is lethal to most species. Many of the fish exposed to cyanide die immediately, especially the younger and smaller fish.
 
      Fish that survive the initial poisoning sometimes don't show signs of their exposure until days, weeks, or even months later when they die from shock or massive digestive damage.
 
      Even the fish that live aren't without problems; studies have shown that exposure to cyanide reduces swimming ability, interferes with reproductive capacity and can lead to seriously deformed offspring. Just the stress of transport shortens their lifespan dramatically.
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post #10 of 56
2/6/12 at 4:16pm

I have 10 that appear to be healthy they have been with me for just about 5 months, so it's possible. I guess you have to just play the numbers game. Truthfully when I bought 15 I only expected 7 or so to make it, so I was all smiles when 10 made it past the 30 day mark.

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post #11 of 56
2/6/12 at 4:17pm

I have a chromis..he has lasted for 2 months going on 3

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post #12 of 56
2/6/12 at 10:56pm
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I have a chromis..he has lasted for 2 months going on 3


I didn't go through SWF because they didn't have them in stock, but I do have a 14 day guarantee. If a fish lasts 2 weeks then it should be healthy enough to survive, and any loss would be on me.  I read up on them, and it sounded like they would be a hardy fish....I should have asked around for personal experiences.
 

 

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post #13 of 56
2/7/12 at 7:31am

I didn't want to say this because Flower you have all ready had them on order. But I also when I started my tank (of course after it was done with cycle) purchased 12 chromis. I lost a couple in the first week then a few more from aggression, added more to make total 18. By the end of 6 months I had 2, they both died from short time later, look like sure actuation. They just seam to fight a lot and schooled some what, they also paired of in groups, rarely all schooled at one time. I didn't want to say this, I realy hope yours all get along, and they didn't use cyanide to collect them. When are they arriving.

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post #14 of 56
2/7/12 at 8:18am
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I didn't want to say this because Flower you have all ready had them on order. But I also when I started my tank (of course after it was done with cycle) purchased 12 chromis. I lost a couple in the first week then a few more from aggression, added more to make total 18. By the end of 6 months I had 2, they both died from short time later, look like sure actuation. They just seam to fight a lot and schooled some what, they also paired of in groups, rarely all schooled at one time. I didn't want to say this, I realy hope yours all get along, and they didn't use cyanide to collect them. When are they arriving.


You know I have been talking about these fish for 2 months, and after I ordered them everyone has horror stories about them.  Live and learn I guess. I ordered 5, maybe 18 was too large of a school. They are damsels but all the books say they are good gentle fish and draw more timid fish out to swim. The only posible aggressor might be the angelfish, but blue should make it feel safe enough to leave them alone. The LMB nor the dottyback will bother anything, and the clowns live in their corner.

 

The Lemonpeel angel just swims in and out of the rocks...the dottyback and LMB are both rock huggers. The clowns stay in a back corner and seldom move away from that spot...my tank looks empty.  My hope is to have the small blue fish school, traveling in a pack across the tank would give it some life...time will tell if they will make it. I won't be ordering any more of them if they die.  

 

I ordered 5 Dispar Anthias some years ago and they died one by one until I had only one left. The male was the best looking with cool shaped fines, and the rest were his "harem" the females looked like gold fish only duller pink...the male died first.

 

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post #15 of 56
2/7/12 at 8:28am

Sorry never saw your post on them, that why I didn't want to say anything negative about them. Well I will have my fingers crossed. When do I need to think calming thought for you, it help for your horses, how are they doing?

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post #16 of 56
2/7/12 at 9:35am
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Sorry never saw your post on them, that why I didn't want to say anything negative about them. Well I will have my fingers crossed. When do I need to think calming thought for you, it help for your horses, how are they doing?


So far just great. I'm a little more watchful now because of the last ones. I do a head count a few times a day. I'm really glad to get the Kuda's around the same size, this 56g is a good sized tank and 2 inch baby horses would be lost in there. The red macros have taken off and I have lots of red...but so far the horses are staying the color black
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3 like hanging out on the pavalon clinging to the columns, and 1 enjoys the tall branch rock and stays near the top. I ordered some amphipods and copepods to seed the in tank refugium that I have on the tall column shelf...so maybe in 6 months to a year I will have enough copepods to get a mandarin. I had a pile of rock up there and seeded it with amphipods...but the horses cleaned those out right away. So now with a little tank within a tank they can't do that with this batch.

 

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post #17 of 56
2/7/12 at 10:54am
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They have arrived safe and sound...they are each about 3 inches big, the size of the Lemonpeel, I was expecting little fish, l hope I didn't overstock my tank. I have been acclimating them. It's hard to see in the bucket..but when I got a glimps of the blue...I hope they make it, they are gorgeous.  Pictures will be up soon. I also got a yellow ruffle leather coral...it's still drawn up but I will post a picture of that too.

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post #18 of 56
2/7/12 at 11:40am
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They have arrived safe and sound...they are each about 3 inches big, the size of the Lemonpeel, I was expecting little fish, l hope I didn't overstock my tank. I have been acclimating them. It's hard to see in the bucket..but when I got a glimps of the blue...I hope they make it, they are gorgeous.  Pictures will be up soon. I also got a yellow ruffle leather coral...it's still drawn up but I will post a picture of that too.


Wow, Flower they are full grown. Where did you get them from?
 

 

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post #19 of 56
2/7/12 at 12:05pm
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Wow, Flower they are full grown. Where did you get them from?
 

 


Full grown is 5 inches. They were ordered from Foster & Smith Aquatics.

 

 

flaming.gif I have no QT...I forgot I had a tank with the seems redone and it looked horrible, but I figured I could use it as a hospital or QT...when my brother in law cleaned out my garage for me they must have dumped it, I gave him the two 30g tanks...It isn't in the garage anywhere.....so I had to put them into the main tank. anyway...pictures

The coral is already starting to open up.

 

First arrived and acclimated into the tank.

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After an hour

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Okay, the fish...first arrival

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A better look in the bucket

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My tank before I added the fish...LOL...notice no fish..they always hide from the camera.

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With the new fish it did come alive, they stay together too

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FTS

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post #20 of 56
2/7/12 at 12:24pm

They look real good.  3" fish is a good size.  I think that you will have some good luck with these 5!!   I can already see a couple of extra fish out of hiding in the last FTS.  Awesome!!!!!

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