Need Duncan help =(

1guydude

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wth is happening to it? This is one of my favs and i dont want to lose it! Is it already to late?
 

btldreef

Moderator
Well, of course we want to know the typical questions, such as tank parameters and how long you've had it.
Do you feed it?
Is there anything in your tank that might be irritating it? (My flame angel ate my colony)
How close is it to the lighting? What type of lighting.
 

1guydude

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well the parameters are standard.
temp 78.5
salinity 1.025
ph 8
trates 0
anmonia 0
trites 0
i havent tested the cal, dkh, or phosphates in awhile
i need to do a water change...
i dont think thats it!
Stark led 3w crees 60w total
it was lower and getting a lot of flow so i moved it up and now it has less flow!
I did catch my combtooth blenny scraping at it yesterday right after i noticed it!
 

btldreef

Moderator
The blenny could be irritating it enough for it not to open. Definitely check your alk, mine is not a fan of any deviation from 9.5dKH.
They're finicky, once they get messed with, they don't open for a while. If it's higher in your tank, chances are that the light is effecting it. Mine does not like direct lighting from the LEDs. Never had a problem under T5 or Halides with them, but the directness of the LEDs seem to irritate them.
 

1guydude

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hmm k thxs... ill check the alk....im in need of w/c's on my tanks so that could very well be!
 

btldreef

Moderator
OUCH!
That's dangerously low. When was the last time you did a water change, since you said you're due for one?
 

snakeblitz33

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Before you bring your alk up, check your calcium.
(hopefully) simple explanation:
If alkalinity is low and calcium is high, add 1tbsp baking SODA to one quart of freshwater, stir hard or shake vigorously and pour in very slowly. It should raise alk by 1dKh. Adjust as needed, and test after every dose.
If alkalinity is low and calcium is low, add 2tbsp kalkwasser to 1g freshwater, stir/shake, wait two hours minimum to let impurities settle at the bottom then drip using an airline tube and gang valve in overnight at a rate of 3-4 drips per second. Test after every dose until you get the hang of it.
Your calcium has to be at the same levels as your alkalinity or else you didn't do anything. If you suddenly bring your alkalinity up, your calcium may dip way down. You'll need to check it either way.
 

1guydude

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cant i just do a w/c ?
Ive got baking soda but no kalk snake...dont i have to get it at a lfs if they even have it!
 

snakeblitz33

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Depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Is your calcium low too? Check your pH also. If your alkalinity is that low, I bet your pH is also low.
Why sure you could do a 50% water change and it would balance everything back out again. That would be simple enough. I just like to play around with chemicals. hehehe
I tell people to use kalkwasser... but me personally, I use Mrs. Wages Pickling Lime. I'de much rather pay $3 for 2 pounds of Mrs. Wages than $22 for 500g of commercial grade kalkwasser. The only reason that Mrs. Wages isn't regularly used is because there is an argument that Mrs. Wages contains a slightly higher phosphate content. I don't worry about it because an algae scrubber just eats it up.
Best bet is to order some kalkwasser online. I believe SWF.com might have some for sale. If you want to go that route...
 

btldreef

Moderator
I would suggest a water change before playing with adding buffers/chemicals since it's been so long since you did one.
 

1guydude

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okay i tested ph today and u were correct snake....it was 7.8 =/
Added some buffer and re tested my dkh....got it back to 8
How soon can i do the w/c after making the water up and letting i airate?
I was hoping six hrs...like before i go to bed if i make it up now....
Is this no biggy and i can wait till tommorow?
Thxs for the help!
 

btldreef

Moderator
It depends on what salt you're using. ESV can be used instantly, but the general rule is to let it sit/mix for 24 hours. That being said, I've used fresh mixed salt using AquaVitro Salinity, Coralife, Reef Crystals, Instant Ocean and Tropic Marin Pro all in less than 8 hours
 

1guydude

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I use oceanic natural sea salt...it says on the directions....briefly airate
lol
it does say endorsed be ora so thats a good thing lol!
idk!!! auhhggggg
 

snakeblitz33

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If you got your alkalinity up a bit, that should have brought your pH up a little bit too. I wouldn't worry about making a water change before bed. First thing in the morning before work would be fine.
I don't do any water changes for 6 months to a year at a time. I play around with my tanks chemicals. I like to experiment a bit. lol.
What's your internal flow rate, and is any powerheads being pointed across the waters surface? That will bring pH up quite a bit. Also, do you use a refugium or algae scrubber on an opposite light schedule as your display? Having that would greatly benefit your system and stabilize your tanks pH.
Don't you have some SPS corals? I bet they aren't too happy right now. :(
 

tur4k

Member
I had a bristletail filefish that mauled my Duncans. They have been like yours for the last week or so, but seem to be coming out a little more each day since removing the filefish.
You definitely want to get the dkH up. I'd do a water change. Then either drip some kalk or use baking soda mixed with RO to get it up to around 9.
 

1guydude

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no this is on my other tank...mainly LPS and softies....
I run my HOB fuge a couple hrs before lights on and a couple hrs after...
I dont wanna keep the fish up!
lol
I work way early in the morning so i think itll have to wait till i get home tommorow
My internal flow rate is 2 korillia nanos (240s i thinks)
and one oceanic ph that i wanna say is like 257gph...
plenty for a 36gal bow me thinks
the skimmer ouput is across the top water!
and the fuge helps a lil too
 
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