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Originally Posted by Slice Not an opinion. I'll let you do your own homework, but last I saw, a few weeks ago, we were somewhere around 47.2% and rising, the number of households getting public assistance. This is down from the all-time high of 55% during the end of Carter's term. I should have...

Originally Posted by reefraff I am not in the top bracket and I guarantee you I am shifting what the government considers income into this year. I have a lot of stocks I am up on, way up on and they will all be sold this year to take advantage of a much lower capital gains tax. If a small time...

Originally Posted by mantisman51 You are the billionaire, do you take the money in the bank or the government shake-down? The government shake-down as you will realize the inflation potential and even if you are taxed at the new capital gains rate you will still likely end up with more real...

Originally Posted by Slice We are approaching the time when those who live off the government will outnumber those who pay into the government. Do you have some sort of evidence to back this opinion? If so, please provide...

Originally Posted by spanko Interesting article from Arthur Laffer an American "supply-side" economist who became influential during the Reagan administration as a member of Reagan's Economic Policy Advisory Board http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...748386610.html I have this cut out of...

Originally Posted by reefraff Cut benefits is exactly what they will do and what they should do if they agreed to provide a certain level under the old system. They have just as much a duty to look out for their shareholders as their former employees...

Quite lengthy and fairly wonkish, but I think it is relevant to this discussion. It also points out why the dems should have just dropped the 200 something Rep amendments and actually made it a completely partisan bill... http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2010/0...-sullivan.html

Originally Posted by reefraff Fact is before the health care fiasco AT&T was able to provide prescription drug coverage to their retirees at a net cost of X. That cost just increaed by a billion. Where do they make it up, increase prices, not in this economy. Cut retiree benefits? Probably...

I own the 5th page! No, really, sorry for posting so much, I'm just catching up, posting as I go along. Originally Posted by lovethesea okay, I am glad you stated that, I heard the whole 1bill today and it stated it was because they were taking subsidies for thier retiree's insurance drug...

Originally Posted by reefraff Got news for ya, it also didn't include the cost of the expansion of the IRS. Only a fool would believe this bill isn't going to be very expensive. There are already big businesses saying it's going to cost them 100's of millions, WHat do you think the real cost to...

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW but different...just like facism is similar to socialism in many aspects. but different b/c they are on the other ends of the political spectrum?? Fascism='right', socialism= 'left'

Originally Posted by reefraff The Republicans have a lot less to fear than the Dems but they ignore the direction the Tea Party wants them to move they risk their own demise. Having worked in Republican party politics I have seen first hand how much those in power despise the little people. I...

Originally Posted by renogaw wow, 90million dollar tax on the drug makers companies! so, that's going to raise prices on drugs, oh wait...no, they can't cause the prices are now regulated by the government. so...how are they going to pay for 90million more taxes...hmm...well, can't cut costs...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 You're fooling yourself if you think this bill won't result in government run healthcare. This bill manipulates the market so that insurance companies will be put out of business due to new rules and regulations. The whole point of this bill is to create a...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 That CBO number is garbage. Not nessesarily because they are partisan, but because what they fed them was garbage. That is why I said "if you want to diagree with assumptions, I think that is more than valid," but the way he was quoting the numbers was incorrect.

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW No that is what I actually like, the exchange idea is fine. It is the other crap involved. The cuts to medicare....basically eliminating an option for the elderly. The paying of certain states medicaid while not paying others. The federal government can't even...

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW We just spent 900 billion to save 100 billion....so essentially we just added 800 billion to our debt. This money is NOT paid for. It is not accounted for. I realize that this is probably how your news is spinning this, but that is not what the CBO estimates...

Originally Posted by stdreb27 Do me a favor, if you're going to be slumming around these left wing nutcase websites. Go dig around some conservative websites... Why not go read the heritage foundations stuff. Just the other day I posted something from Cafe Hayek, that blog is pretty...

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