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  1. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW Since Roe V Wade 54.5 Million abortions have been performed in this country. The number means there are more than 3,300 abortions daily and 137 abortions per hour every hour in the United States. Translated another way, an abortion is done about every 30...
  2. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by bionicarm The government has to be involved for the legal aspects of marriage. Go walk into a Catholic Church and tell a priest you want to get married. One of the first things he'll tell you is you'll need a marriage license to proceed. If marriage is a...
  3. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Deuteronomy 24:5 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out...
  4. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff I don't know how to draw you a picture to make it any more clear. A church can make the decision for themselves. The government is constitutionally prohibited from making laws establishing religion or preventing the free exercise thereof. If the government...
  5. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff You are trying to place the rights of a protected class ahead of everyone's basic constitutional right of freedom of religion. No, I am saying get rid of the protected class, or get rid of governments involvement in religion. Let the churchs decide who to...
  6. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    The government using marriage the way it has made sense once upon a time. Now it presents a problem that isn't that hard to fix. Just start issuing civil union licenses that can be finalized by a minister or a clerk, whatever floats your boat. Why not just call it what it is? What's the big...
  7. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Yeah BUT if they refused to marry someone based on being a member of a protected class they would be open to lawsuits. I can refuse you service at my business for any reason, except for being gay, a woman, handicapped, a "minority" etc. So the issue isn't with gay marriage, its with protected...
  8. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    If the government recognizes gay marriage it will open the door to lawsuits against churches who refuse to perform the ceremonies. There are plenty of people out there, even gays, who are more interested in pushing an agenda than anything else. Take the New Mexico case. The photographer declined...
  9. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    That is the way it should be. I think any two people gay or straight should be able to sign a kinship contract and get the exact same right we give married couples now. I've known a few older widowed folk who had no interest in ever getting remarried who have moved in with old friends in the...
  10. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Has nothing to do with that. The government cannot compel a person to violate their religious faith. What if someone's religous belief is that they shouldn't pay taxes (many people have tried this, hasn't really worked) or someone's religious belief is that they cannot wear clothes? Maybe...
  11. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    New Mexico human rights commission fined the photographer and she is appealing it in court now. Nothing like having to hire lawyers to protect our most basic constitutional right. The other case is also being appealed as well. This isn't an issue of marriage rights. People can sue for anything...
  12. jerthunter

    Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

    Quote: Originally Posted by PEZenfuego That would be great if there were three questions =P Touche'
  13. jerthunter

    Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

    Just for fun, the color is blue right here (indicating spot of 475 nm light), and turns green here (indicating spot corresponding to 510 nm). Can't spot the magenta, but two out of three ain't bad right?
  14. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Tell that to the church that was sued for refusing to rent their site for a gay ceremony. Or the photographer who declined a job that would have required her to attend a gay ceremony and was sued. It's just another example of leftist nutjobs who seek to...
  15. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff I agree with you. I support civil unions as a matter of fairness. But that isn't what the big push for gay marriage is about. There are churches that support gay marriage and ones that don't. It would make sense to me that the ones that do should be allowed...
  16. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    But marriage is a religious institution the government is constitutionally prohibited from meddling in. The government approves or restricts a great many medical procedures, devices and drugs. Why are they prohibited from regulating on specific procedure? I am not sure how it is where you live...
  17. jerthunter

    Have you guys tried this out yet?

    I cannot vouch for any of the numbers, but it nice to see what the impact is instead of just listening to the political spin. Of course we won't know the actual numbers until after the fact, but I found it helpful for planning.
  18. jerthunter

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    The term common sense is overused quite a bit. It seems like people insist something is "common sense" if they believe it, and anyone that disagrees must lack it. To me, if a majority of people vote a particular way, then "common sense" would be that they are correct, thus the term "common" in...
  19. jerthunter

    Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

    Hi, I have not been following, but why do you point out this color spectrum for the point on where blue and green meet or the color magenta? What argument was commonly made, but not brought up? I think the point is to show that is often ridiculous to ask someone to point to a specific point...
  20. jerthunter

    Have you guys tried this out yet?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/business/tax-cut-scenarios/ It's nice to put some numbers on the different scenerios.
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