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there's cima(central illinois marin association) also. i think you can just add .com to the cima and it will pull up their site. there's also seasl(saltwater enthusist association of st. louis)thats seasl.org there are a couple good stores in springfeild i hear of. but i dont know the names. steven

hi there, the 55 g acrylic would be a great sump/ refugium. alot of people these days have large tanks and even larger sumpsor refugiums. for instance a couple guys i know have 200gal display tanks and 3 100gal sump/refugium tubs. these are the huge rubbermaid watering troughs used in farming...

hi there, where in stl are you located? i am interested in the 125.let me know. thanks, steven

hi there, theres also andy's animal house off of woodsmill rd.(141) about 2 miles south of manchester rd. its a decent store they sell clams and have some pretty good corals there. just thought i might mention it , i heard you say your close to manchester. steven

how is it listed, i can't pull it up. steven

hi there, yes i have some on order from that guy also, i just think that it will take a couple more weeks for them to actually get the sand here. unfortunately i can't wait that long, i have already lost 2 corals and 2 more are looking bad so i have to do something now. from past reef...

i live in east alton il.(close to st louis) and would also like to talk to some other fellow reefers here. i am kinda new so i don't know to many people around here thats into this hobby. steven

hi , thanks for the info on the sand, i was getting pretty desperate for some, it definately isn't southdown but with the 2 bags i already have and the 4 i am getting of this stuff it will work out nice. has anybody else checked on some of the other message boards at -- or reefs for southdown...