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vince-1961

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I should have pit this info under "lighting, equipment and DIY". Anyone know how to move it?
 

grue

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Kinda reminds me of a water sprinkler head......Hummmm....I wonder...... think I will go get a rainbird and see how big of a mess i can make...
Grue
 

bpro32

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Originally Posted by Grue
http:///forum/post/2802055
Kinda reminds me of a water sprinkler head......Hummmm....I wonder...... think I will go get a rainbird and see how big of a mess i can make...
Grue
I've been in sw for less than a year and I've felt the same way
 

t316

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So did we have to have the hairy leg and foot in the pic....

I'm just wondering, because now I have this visual I can't shake.
 
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vince-1961

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T316, I REALLY do not want to know what's going on in YOUR head!
(The foot was juist a quick size reference.)
 

mr_x

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thanks vince. since you can open it to do any maintenance, i'd say it's a good little wavemaker that will be alot less stressful on the pump, than the turning on and off type would. i'd go with one or two of them if i didn't already have the oceans motions 4 way.
i just remember the smaller one which was sealed. that thing would get clogged every so often.
so i guess you can just open the top while it's still in line and unclog it if need be. nice.
btw- most people use a soda can or something as a size reference. atleast you didn't use your "little buddy"
 
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vince-1961

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My foot was "handy."

Besides the only good soda can is the one that just refilled my rum and coke!
RE SWCDs: they move a lot. I rigged them up once already. That rig failed due to causes unrelated to SCWDs; however, during that trial, I did notice that the SCWDs move substantially, enough to have caused stress on the the PVC union several feet and turns away. Additionally, I noticed that they sent "pulses" of water when switching. The pulses made the loose flexible tubing leading away from the SCWDs go bonkers. (large back and forth movements with each pulse.)
Therefore, on re-rig, I will secure the SCWDs to wood in order to prevent any movement of the SCWD itself. Will report back here if and when I have more info on the SCWDs.
 

t316

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Originally Posted by vince-1961
http:///forum/post/2804158
My foot was "handy."

Besides the only good soda can is the one that just refilled my rum and coke!
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I was just picking with you vince....Get used to it on this site. Good thread...
 
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vince-1961

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Pick away! My heretofore considerable brain power has been absent for the last couple of ... decades. Can't say I missed it too much.
Okay folks, I mentioned that SCWDs move. Here is my solution to that problem.
I'll let you know tomorrow how it worked out. (Got to let the PVC cement cure for a few hours before I pressure test the new rig.)
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vince-1961

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Well, I am frustrated with this product. At present, I would recommend AGAINST this product. Here's why....
FIRST: I had a devil of a time getting a solid seal on the lid of one of the units. Finally managed to get it leak-free by using a homemade O-ring/gasket and plumber's paste. The other unit I had put silicone around the exterior where the lid fit the body. I suspect that the leak was the primary source of air entering the closed loop and creating a massive venturi effect which turned my DT into a protien skimmer. (bubbles)
SECOND: these things cause water to PULSE through the pipes when the unit is switching. When holding the flexible 1" ID tubing in my hand, I was not able to hold it still, and that was with the SCWDs securely fastened to the wood stand.
THIRD: They are loud. The frequency at which they switch is determined by the rate of water flow. Slower flow means they don't switch as often. Mine was high (2500 to 3000 GPH), so they switched every 30 seconds./ A switch took about 25 seconds to accomplish. So, that is 25 seconds of pulsing water and noise.
The noise from the SCWDs is a rythmical knocking sound about as loud as a relatively quiet, or "polite" clap of the hands. Perhaps slightly quieter than someone knocking with thier knuckles on your front door. Maybe they wouldn't be so loud if the GPH were not so high.
The noise is also the sound of the flexible tubing whacking the side of the DT as the water pulsed thru it.
Alas, my solution to the noise problem will, hopefully, be to mount these babies outside, on the other side of a wall, where I can't hear them.
I'll post again if I have any further info on this product.
 

mr_x

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well, that sucks. sorry to hear about it. the smaller model didn't make any noise or jump around unless it had an obstruction.
vince, for stopping leaks in threads, i have found a product that's completely inert, and works perfectly. better than teflon tape, and you can open and re-seal the threads over and over and it will still be water tight. it's called "plasto-joint stik"
http://www.a1poolparts.com/-strse-47...ing/Detail.bok
i hope that link was ok.
btw- maybe the extra money the oceans motions 4-way costs is worth the stretch after all.
 
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vince-1961

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Thanks for the link.
Re: OM 4.... you live and you learn. After all, life itself is just one big experiment!
 
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vince-1961

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The Customer Satisfaction Department of 3iQ Ventures LLC, the maker of the SCWDs, has contacted me. They want to stand by their product and make these things work right. Apparently I might have received defective units as they are not supposed to create the movement or the noise.
I'll keep you posted ....
 
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vince-1961

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A man who identified himself as one of the two partners at 3iQ Ventures called me. He had reviewed the photos I posted on this thread and determined that the two SCWDs I received were among a defective batch wherein the manufacturing process went awry, causing the "gates" not to fit against the ******** wall of the unit smoothly. The improper fit allowed water to slip in between the gate and the wall, thereby causing the pulsing and knocking. .... or something like that anyway ...
He is sending me two new units and is eager for me to return my two units so that he can examine them to see why the lids leaked.
He said that when these units are operational, they should be totally silent and movement free. He said the lids ought to

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on easily leak free. He was most apologetic and thankful for me notifying the company of this thread.
 
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vince-1961

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Paul Muscarella of 3iQ ventures is good for his word. He sent me two new SCWDs, which I received today. Then I screwed up.
I was using a vise to hold the PVC still while I turned the SCWD with my hands. The bottom one went in fine.
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Then 1/4 turn too much on the side one.
Ouch. That's a $90 mistake on my part.
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Maybe Paul will know how to remedy this short of total replacement.......


 
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