12 gallon nano pic. what do ya think?
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firefish21
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nice
what ar eyou going to keep in the others?
what ar eyou going to keep in the others?
cross
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ok. first, what is your A/C on in your home? Turn it down to 77 at least.Second, sometimes when my lights are on i'll leave the flip top part open to pass more heat out. Third, I have a fan on in my bedroom all the time, this is whare my tank is. Leave a fan on all the time. My tank never gets higher than 78 unless i forget to flip the top sometimes it will get to 80. hope this helps.
jacksdad
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rhet:
IMO 80 to 82 isn't that high. I keep my NC24 at 80-81 and everything does great. If temps. are an issue however you may want to get a chiller. It's cheaper than running AC and a fan to cool your tank. There is a company that make a chiller specifically for the NC. E-mail for info.
Bob
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Nice looking nano!!
IMO 80 to 82 isn't that high. I keep my NC24 at 80-81 and everything does great. If temps. are an issue however you may want to get a chiller. It's cheaper than running AC and a fan to cool your tank. There is a company that make a chiller specifically for the NC. E-mail for info.
Bob
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Nice looking nano!!
cross
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actually yes, 80-82 is high. corals and saltwater fish should be in the 74-79 range. its summer, why would you keep your a/c on less than 77 anyway? if you read in all the books and listen to the experts, they will tell you 82 is torture for a tank. its very easy to cool your nano down, just read what i said above.the hotter it is, the more problems you will have.Thanks for the feedback guys.. I need to get smaller corals huh? lol..
jer4916
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i have a nano/125/ and a 55 gallon tanks, anyways my nano is always around 78, but i've seen my tanks before due to a malfunctioning heater make the tank go up to 90 degrees....everything was ok...just make sure your temps are that high for long because its WICKED bad....but around 78/82 degrees...the ocean gets that hot....dont stress to much
~chris
~chris
nyyankeees
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HAHAHA, they say "wicked" in SD. I say it but I'm from NY(originally), all this time I thought it was an east coast thing.
ophiura
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80-82 degrees is not high at all.
I quote the article by Dr. Shimek in which he reviews average temperatures in most tropical coral areas :
The lower temperature limit for the most cold-tolerant reef organisms appears to be about 68 degrees Fahrenheit (20 degrees Celsius). This is about the water temperature of Midway Atoll, which has the northernmost coral reef. Although a few reef animals can live in colder water, most cannot. The average annual temperature of most coral reefs is around 82 to 84 degrees Fahrenheit (27 to 28 degrees Celsius)(see Table I and Figure 1), which seems to be the optimum for coral growth (Barnes et al. 1995, Clausen and Roth 1975, Weber and White 1976, Coles and Jokiel 1977 and 1978, Highsmith 1979). The commonly advised mini-reef temperatures of 74 to 77 degrees Fahrenheit (22 to 25 degrees Celsius) are stressing most of the animals unnecessarily and, in some cases, severely.
If you look up some sea surface temperatures (abbreviated SST) thru NOAA or something, you should find some maps that demonstrate, quite clearly, natural seasurface temperatures in these areas are commonly in the low eighties.
This doesn't necessarily mean, BTW, to raise your temperature to 84 degrees or something, but that 82 degrees is not a problem, nor should you spend money on unnecessary equipment (or stress) because of 82 degrees. :yes:
I quote the article by Dr. Shimek in which he reviews average temperatures in most tropical coral areas :
The lower temperature limit for the most cold-tolerant reef organisms appears to be about 68 degrees Fahrenheit (20 degrees Celsius). This is about the water temperature of Midway Atoll, which has the northernmost coral reef. Although a few reef animals can live in colder water, most cannot. The average annual temperature of most coral reefs is around 82 to 84 degrees Fahrenheit (27 to 28 degrees Celsius)(see Table I and Figure 1), which seems to be the optimum for coral growth (Barnes et al. 1995, Clausen and Roth 1975, Weber and White 1976, Coles and Jokiel 1977 and 1978, Highsmith 1979). The commonly advised mini-reef temperatures of 74 to 77 degrees Fahrenheit (22 to 25 degrees Celsius) are stressing most of the animals unnecessarily and, in some cases, severely.
If you look up some sea surface temperatures (abbreviated SST) thru NOAA or something, you should find some maps that demonstrate, quite clearly, natural seasurface temperatures in these areas are commonly in the low eighties.
This doesn't necessarily mean, BTW, to raise your temperature to 84 degrees or something, but that 82 degrees is not a problem, nor should you spend money on unnecessary equipment (or stress) because of 82 degrees. :yes:
ophiura
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Why? If the temperatures in the ocean where these animals are from is higher than 80 degrees on average??? Lots of professionals and actually scientists in the hobby disagree with the older idea that includes temperatures below 78 degrees which are very abnormal temps for reef animals. It is actually a very "heated" ha ha debate in the hobby. Many many many of us keep tanks over 80 degrees quite well indeed. :yes: I think many with metal halides are over 80 unless they have a chiller...Mr. Bang Guy keeps his at 83 if I recall (and there is something about a "I would keep it at 85 degrees if I could afford the electric bill" ) or something.
tthemadd1
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My heater went on the fritz in my cutting tank, I came home and found the temp to be in the upper 80's. All of my Kenya tree cuttings bit the dust. Hoping that a the baby mushroom survives after moving it to the display tank. Watch those temps especially with summer coming.
cross
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:notsure: YES, SPIKES ARE BAD, DEFINITY...OPHIURA, if you are correct in this 80-84 f range, than why do we all have thermonatures in our tanks that say 74-80 is SAFE and above that is not safe? im not trying to argue over this. but perhaps if everyone kept there tanks at 80-82 we wouldnt need chillers trying to reach the 77-78 degree line? i was taught (not that i know everything, in fact im only 2 years into this and you can never learn enough about reef systems) about temp the first thing..i remember keeping tangs awhile ago in 79-80 degrees, everytime they got ick, and in 74-78 degrees they seemed to do so much better..so what is the perfect degree for a tank with corals and fish? i would say 77, but thats my opinion. 
ophiura
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Sure, we are all discussing opinions. No worries there. So am I.
Thermometers are generally "general" for tanks...salt or fresh, reef, fish only...whatever. Hydrometers also give an ideal range well below that considered appropriate for many inverts. Still safe range for fish, but fatal to many inverts, still marked on hydrometers as the safe zone. Many people have chillers to keep the tanks from going over the mid eighties, not necessarily to keep it at the 78 mark. But 78 is one of those "traditional" temperatures in fish keeping, which is another factor altogether. :yes:
Thermometers are generally "general" for tanks...salt or fresh, reef, fish only...whatever. Hydrometers also give an ideal range well below that considered appropriate for many inverts. Still safe range for fish, but fatal to many inverts, still marked on hydrometers as the safe zone. Many people have chillers to keep the tanks from going over the mid eighties, not necessarily to keep it at the 78 mark. But 78 is one of those "traditional" temperatures in fish keeping, which is another factor altogether. :yes: