125G tank overflow

anti

Member
I am wondering if it would be better to have two 300G max flow overflow boxes with two return pumps, or one larger overfull box and return pump? Also, would 30G be a good sump size? Should I go with 55G? Thanks!
 

al&burke

Active Member
I think you would be fine with the two 300G max ans ONE pump - have a look at 2quils three for his 125 Build he has a neet drawing there. I always look at it this way if you have two pumps then it is just another plug you have to use. Most of the typical set-ups have too many plug ins to begin with. But seriously two overflows one on each end would do a nice job and your return in the middle.
Sorry - the bigger the better for your sump/fuge - I think anyways see what the others have to say.
 

anti

Member
I was thinking two pumps so I could have two outputs? You are saying ues one 600GPH pump?
 
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eric b 125

Guest
i have a 125, as well. two pumps would make matching the overflows and returns too difficult. if you want two returns, just split the return line from one pump. i used a SCWD to split the line and split each side again using loc line.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/369906/eric-b-s-125-re-build-journal
 

anti

Member
Some great builds!
I was going to use a syphon overflow and not drill it though..
does this change anything?
 
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eric b 125

Guest
i dont personally have any experience with siphon overflow boxes, but if you get two of the same boxes (ones that dont lose siphon) i dont see a problem. i maintain a tank that uses the cpr overflow box with aqualifter pump and the pump failed a few times.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/384036/125g-tank-overflow#post_3363319
If you have a chance now to drill your tank I would say drill it, you won't be sorry later, it really is not hard to do.
Agreed, for what you are going to spend on a external overflow you can go to glassholes. com and purchase a kits that has everything you need to drill your tank except for the drill.
No need for two pumps. Split your return if you're looking for 2 outputs. But running two pumps can be done as long as they are in one sump and not seperated from eachother by running two tanks for your filtration.
 

anti

Member
I already have two 300GPH max syphon overflow boxes and one 300GPH pump is why I asked to do it this way..
also glassholes dot com is not a site?
 
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eric b 125

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try glass-holes.com. i think there's a hyphen in there. that's where i got the kit you see in my build thread. honestly, drilling the tank was super easy. i nearly chewed my lip off while doing it, but once the first one was done the second one was easy. i would urge you to really consider drilling the tank. i know you already have the overflow boxes, but that doesnt mean you have to use them
 

nizz

Member
Not bad site. (www.glass-holes.com) I will be looking into that site when I need to drill my tank one day.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
What brand are the overflows and the pump? You say you have a 300gph hour pump...is that before or after you factor in head loss? Honestly I would advise against seperate overflows as well as seperate pumps. Running two overflows is just that much more potential for a problem occuring incase of a loss of syphon. If you could take them back and get a single, larger overflow would be better. But the problem that I see here is that 300gph for a 125g system with sump is very low for this size of a set up. I'll be pushing the low end on my 120g with sump at 600gph. Some folks go higher.
Also, running your overflows at half of their capacity typically means that you're at more of a risk of losing syphon. Manufactureres that I spoke with over at CPR tell me that the syphon is most secure when you're pushing your overflows close to their maximum capacity as you can without going over.
 

anti

Member
The pump I have now is 720GHP, 300 with head. I think I might try the drilling.. What is a good 700GPH pump with 4 ft head?
 

nizz

Member
If you drill you tank like that site. I would think having more flow you need would be advised. But, that is just if you go that route.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by anti http:///forum/thread/384036/125g-tank-overflow#post_3363886
The pump I have now is 720GHP, 300 with head. I think I might try the drilling.. What is a good 700GPH pump with 4 ft head?
Eheims are probably most respected for their reliability, power, quietness and least amount of heat transfere to the tank. The eheim 1262 or eheim compact 5000 would be a good choice for your size tank. One of the more popular brand of pumps but probably not as reliable are the Mag Drive pumps. I think a Mag 9 or 9.5 would be the appropriate size for your tank.
The thing about the drilling is never having to rely on maintaining a syphon to keep the drains going. It's all done by gravity so there is alot less to worry about there as far as flood occuring.
 

anti

Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizz http:///forum/thread/384036/125g-tank-overflow#post_3364229
If you drill you tank like that site. I would think having more flow you need would be advised. But, that is just if you go that route.
Im not quite sure what your trying to say here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/thread/384036/125g-tank-overflow#post_3364238
Eheims are probably most respected for their reliability, power, quietness and least amount of heat transfere to the tank. The eheim 1262 or eheim compact 5000 would be a good choice for your size tank. One of the more popular brand of pumps but probably not as reliable are the Mag Drive pumps. I think a Mag 9 or 9.5 would be the appropriate size for your tank.
The thing about the drilling is never having to rely on maintaining a syphon to keep the drains going. It's all done by gravity so there is alot less to worry about there as far as flood occuring.
Ok so if i went with the 700 max overflow drill kit, would i place it in the center of the tank or the side? Do i need to drill the return? Or would gravity work against me here?
 
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eric b 125

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i went back and forth for a while about drilling the returns. i opted not to because it was easier to control the siphon break level on non-drilled applications.
 
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