140 Tank! couple questions tho

[cafero702]

i currently moved my 60 gallon to a a new 140 gallon glass tank
the trnasfer was good evrything lived and was fine the wter came out perfect
here are some pics of my new 140 gallon tank

i currently have a
lion fish
porcupine puffer
snowflake eel

hes underneath the roman pillars thats his spot lol

i want to get a
powder blue tang
blonde naso tang
maybe a powder brown tang
but i think i need more algae on my rocks because tangs are algae eaters i have good live rock but not much algae on it do i need more algae before getting the tangs? or is it ok to just subsitute the algae with see veggies?
and aslo would it be possible to have some coral reef life in my tank with these fish?
not the hard coral that needs special lights for it to live. but the like mushrooms and things like that i dont want to make it a full on reef tank but i would like some reef life in the tank if possible. is this possible???
any comments are greatly appriciated

 

[azul1994]

First off, if you want that many tangs, i would suggest adding ALOT more live rock. Healthy tangs will pick at the rock all day and will need 100+ pounds of it.
With all those big messy fish i would suggest keeping the tank FOWLR.

 

[spanko]

Agree with azul on the additional rock. You need the biofiltration with that many pooing fish. Then start buying some macro algae to include in the display for them to munch on. Also an algae clip with some Nori daily.
Pretty tank.

 

[cafero702]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2537028
Agree with azul on the additional rock. You need the biofiltration with that many pooing fish. Then start buying some macro algae to include in the display for them to munch on. Also an algae clip with some Nori daily.
Pretty tank.
Yes i was planning on adding alot more live rock before i get the tangs definetly my tank looks so bare right now. im not positive on how much rock i have right now but i should have at least 100 pounds for them to be munching on???
and i should get all the rock bulid up some algae and maybe a couple reef corals nothing crazy or anything big. then get the tangs??? does that sound suitable for my situation lol ???

 

[spanko]

Sounds like a plan. Try for about 1-1.5 lbs per gallon of water. Buy some macro algae from you LFS (try to stay away from Caulerpa) and get it established in the tank; Get your parameters in check and that go for it.

 

[cafero702]

Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2537068
Sounds like a plan. Try for about 1-1.5 lbs per gallon of water. Buy some macro algae from you LFS (try to stay away from Caulerpa) and get it established in the tank; Get your parameters in check and that go for it.
ok ive had saltwater tanks for almost a year now but the whole reef thing im a newb at lol
yes my LFS has macro algae i can do that ya but parameters??? whats that exactly?
and what all would i be able to get coral wize?? not the hard coral i know that much but what is considered in my market that i can browse for with my normal light ????

 

[stdreb27]

With the porky I wouldn't try any softies. Puffers like to chew on anything and they especially like coral. It almost looks like he likes to chew on your lion a little bit. You'll find alot of people here are huge fans of Live rock, and they aren't wrong. Life rock will help out alot with your parameters.

 

[cafero702]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2537109
With the porky I wouldn't try any softies. Puffers like to chew on anything and they especially like coral. It almost looks like he likes to chew on your lion a little bit. You'll find alot of people here are huge fans of Live rock, and they aren't wrong. Life rock will help out alot with your parameters.
no i used to have a Blue-Line trigger he started messing with my lion fish pretty bad i had to get rid of him

but my puffer dosnt chew on anything not even hermit crabs nothing at all that was one of my main concerns at first but im not worried about it
but yes definetly alot of live rock i need i was thinking of ordering it because my LFS has tons of live rock so dam much but none really have colors not no algae really built up on it you know

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by cafero702
http:///forum/post/2537134
no i used to have a Blue-Line trigger he started messing with my lion fish pretty bad i had to get rid of him

but my puffer dosnt chew on anything not even hermit crabs nothing at all that was one of my main concerns at first but im not worried about it
but yes definetly alot of live rock i need i was thinking of ordering it because my LFS has tons of live rock so dam much but none really have colors not no algae really built up on it you know
Nothing you buy is going to be colored really pretty. That usually developes in the tank. And with pretty much everything you buy it will need to cycle before you drop it into the tank.

 

[cafero702]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2537181
Nothing you buy is going to be colored really pretty. That usually developes in the tank. And with pretty much everything you buy it will need to cycle before you drop it into the tank.

well i mean there are no colors at all almost when i get it from my LFS bearly even any red on it
but if i do buy it i need to cycle it before i drop them in??
aclamate THE lr?
and parameter?? whats the deal with that whats that?

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by cafero702
http:///forum/post/2537192
well i mean there are no colors at all almost when i get it from my LFS bearly even any red on it
but if i do buy it i need to cycle it before i drop them in??
aclamate THE lr?
and parameter?? whats the deal with that whats that?
You understand the nitrification process right? Well the rocks will have die off in them which will have to decomposed and go through the NH4-no2-no3 cycle. Even stuff you get online will most likely not have any growth on them, and what they do will probably die.
When they refer to parameters they are talking about the ammonia Nitrate and Nitrite and whatever else they measure calcium salinity ect. Since liverock is soo pourus it has alot of the the benificial bacteria that breaks the toxins down. So the more you have the more of that bacteria you have the more of a safety net you have, especially since all three of your fish are messy.

 

[cafero702]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2537329
You understand the nitrification process right? Well the rocks will have die off in them which will have to decomposed and go through the NH4-no2-no3 cycle. Even stuff you get online will most likely not have any growth on them, and what they do will probably die.
When they refer to parameters they are talking about the ammonia Nitrate and Nitrite and whatever else they measure calcium salinity ect. Since liverock is soo pourus it has alot of the the benificial bacteria that breaks the toxins down. So the more you have the more of that bacteria you have the more of a safety net you have, especially since all three of your fish are messy.
ok ok i get it ive havent heard of parameter reffering to that yes i understand. i went to my LFS today and got 10 more pounds of rock there pretty nice all colors on them plenty of algae ill post pics once i put them in my tank. i stil have alot more to get though lol.
so the more rock i LR i have the more comfortable i should feel ya? i didnt know they cut down the toxins in the tank though thanks lol

 

[dse]

lmao thats a classic the hurmit and the puffer both look like the smiling for the cam lmao i love it.
just pure classic

 

[cafero702]

Originally Posted by dse
http:///forum/post/2538294
lmao thats a classic the hurmit and the puffer both look like the smiling for the cam lmao i love it.
just pure classic
lol ya i wasnt even trying to get the hermit in the shot either
worked out nice

 

[cafero702]

ok i got about 20 new pounds of LR all with good colors on it a bunch of purple pink and greens on it and i also got a mushroom rock and a zoo popus!
i need a better camera the colors dont come out as bright as they really are but here they are

shroom rock on the left an zoo pupos on the right

my snowflake also

i have 2 20,000K coral life lights and i threw on my flourescent light up too to bring out all the colors