144half circle stocking list, input appreciated...

rotarymagic

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Ok I'm starting to finalize my list, but would like input on introduction order and sizing:
Red Sea Regal Angel ABSOLUTE MUST HAVE!!!!
Magnificent Rabbitfish
Bicolor angel
Coral Beauty angel (no input desired about mixing dwarf angels)
Aussie Harlequin Tusk
yellow belly Hippo tang
yellow tang maybe... compatibility dependent
Powder blue or brown
purple tang maybe... compatibility dependent
desjardini sailfin maybe... compatibility dependent
4 neon gobies cleaning duties!!!
If I introduce some skunk cleaners early on, do you think they'll still get eaten anyway?
I may delete one or two fish from this list, but for the most parts that's what I want.
 
small triggers

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sounds fairly good, im assuming you are planning on putting in smaller juveniles, since in about 5ish years you may have to pair down??? OH and what is your equipment going to be?
 
rotarymagic

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yeah.... I may trade out some stuff longterm... looking to get an Euroreef rs180 or 250 on it... I got an Aqua UV sterilizer for 40w.. 150lbs live rock... refugium.
 
srfisher17

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Lots of comments, but a few stick out: IMO, this is way too many tangs in a tank that size and the tusk will usually eat any invert. BTW, small tusks are almost impossible to find, especially the Australian variety; but they will usually leave smaller fish alone. I'm sure you know the Regal is a very difficult, maybe even "expert-only" fish. I'd put him in first and let him establish his territory; then be ready to remove fish that really stress him. IMO, this fish will not do well in a very heavily stocked tank.
 
stdreb27

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wouldn't do the sailfin at all. Might pick 2 of the smaller ones, tops as far as tangs go. Like a yellow or purple.
 
rotarymagic

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I'll pass on the shrimp, I've seen it work with mystery wrasses if introduced before the fish, but I realize that a tusk gets much bigger.
What about the powder brown or blue???
I'd rather have one of those over a yellow or purple.
I can do with out the sailfin.
I do want to make sure this doesn't turn into an asian style tank. That's my biggest concern hence why I won't throw an imperator or some other ridiculous angel in there.
How is this revised list?:
Red Sea Regal Angel
Magnificent Rabbitfish
Bicolor angel
Coral Beauty angel
Aussie Harlequin Tusk
yellow belly Hippo tang
Powder blue or brown tang
4 neon gobies
 
srfisher17

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Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2766889
I'll pass on the shrimp, I've seen it work with mystery wrasses if introduced before the fish, but I realize that a tusk gets much bigger.
What about the powder brown or blue???
I'd rather have one of those over a yellow or purple.
I can do with out the sailfin.
I do want to make sure this doesn't turn into an asian style tank. That's my biggest concern hence why I won't throw an imperator or some other ridiculous angel in there.
How is this revised list?:
Red Sea Regal Angel
Magnificent Rabbitfish
Bicolor angel
Coral Beauty angel
Aussie Harlequin Tusk
yellow belly Hippo tang
Powder blue or brown tang
4 neon gobies
Tusks are not above eating gobies. BTW, some Emperor Angels are now coming from Hawaii!
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2766889
I'll pass on the shrimp, I've seen it work with mystery wrasses if introduced before the fish, but I realize that a tusk gets much bigger.
What about the powder brown or blue???
I'd rather have one of those over a yellow or purple.
I can do with out the sailfin.
I do want to make sure this doesn't turn into an asian style tank. That's my biggest concern hence why I won't throw an imperator or some other ridiculous angel in there.
How is this revised list?:
Red Sea Regal Angel
Magnificent Rabbitfish
Bicolor angel
Coral Beauty angel
Aussie Harlequin Tusk
yellow belly Hippo tang
Powder blue or brown tang
4 neon gobies
Seems like a good list. You'll have your work cut out with that Regal Angel. Took mine over 2 months to get to eat prepared foods. Lived off enriched brine.
I had neon gobies with my H. Tusk and a Goldbar wrasse, the Tusk definitely eyed the gobies a time or two, but never tried to do anything. I only had the tusk in the tank for a week or so, so more time might have had different results. Definitely only purchase ORA tank-born Neons, and add them first.
With a Harlequin Tusk and a Powder Brown Tang, I would strongly, strongly recommend proper quarantine procedures.
 
rotarymagic

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2767507
Seems like a good list. You'll have your work cut out with that Regal Angel. Took mine over 2 months to get to eat prepared foods. Lived off enriched brine.
I had neon gobies with my H. Tusk and a Goldbar wrasse, the Tusk definitely eyed the gobies a time or two, but never tried to do anything. I only had the tusk in the tank for a week or so, so more time might have had different results. Definitely only purchase ORA tank-born Neons, and add them first.
With a Harlequin Tusk and a Powder Brown Tang, I would strongly, strongly recommend proper quarantine procedures.
I'm thinking about growing a sponge in some sort of dedicated fuge for it... then fragging it and putting bits in the DT. I was definitely going to QT any tang and tusk that goes in. Whats the smallest QT tank I can use and what kind of filtration while keeping it hypo?
 
srfisher17

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2767385
I know I've had a couple friends with 90 gallons crash with a powder blue in it. And I think that was a 5 foot tank.
Just curious; why would the combination of a 5' tank and a PB tang have anything to do with a tank crashing?
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2767710
Just curious; why would the combination of a 5' tank and a PB tang have anything to do with a tank crashing?
I guess I should be more clear. I've had a friend who didn't have good luck with a power blue tang in that much tank. IT was basically that and a foxface. And a damsel.
 
srfisher17

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2767724
I guess I should be more clear. I've had a friend who didn't have good luck with a power blue tang in that much tank. IT was basically that and a foxface. And a damsel.
Yeah; I'm in the group that thinks tangs need more swimming space to thrive; and PBs are not the easiest fish anyhow. But, when in the right environment, they sure are magnificent, long-lived fish.
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2767696
I'm thinking about growing a sponge in some sort of dedicated fuge for it... then fragging it and putting bits in the DT. I was definitely going to QT any tang and tusk that goes in. Whats the smallest QT tank I can use and what kind of filtration while keeping it hypo?
I tried/am trying that with my Blueface Angel. I added a red tree sponge with the hopes that he would eat it. For months now he never touched it. Only recently have I noticed he dragged the sponge back to his cave. He does love Ocean Nutrition Angel Formula (with sponge in it) though.
As far as growing sponges, not sure. The typical tree or ball sponge grows very slow. And even with one angel constantly picking at it, one should last quite some time.
Great idea about cutting one up though, didn't think about that. Will see about sneaking some into his regular food.
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2767724
I guess I should be more clear. I've had a friend who didn't have good luck with a power blue tang in that much tank. IT was basically that and a foxface. And a damsel.

Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2767761
Yeah; I'm in the group that thinks tangs need more swimming space to thrive; and PBs are not the easiest fish anyhow. But, when in the right environment, they sure are magnificent, long-lived fish.
FWIW, a 144gal is 40% larger then a 90gal. Also, last time Rotary did a thread, I calcuated the circumference of that front pane of glass (the half circle), and it was about 8'. With good aquascaping, that should be enough for a Powder IMO.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2767761
Yeah; I'm in the group that thinks tangs need more swimming space to thrive; and PBs are not the easiest fish anyhow. But, when in the right environment, they sure are magnificent, long-lived fish.
I had a smaller sailfin, maybe 6 inches long in a 5 foot 180. With no problems. But he is in an 8 foot tank now.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2767768
FWIW, a 144gal is 40% larger then a 90gal. Also, last time Rotary did a thread, I calcuated the circumference of that front pane of glass (the half circle), and it was about 8'. With good aquascaping, that should be enough for a Powder IMO.
He said 5 foot in diameter. 4 foot radius I'd try it.
 
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