260W PC....what corals/anemones???

[browniebuck]

We have a 55 gallon tank (48" long) with 70lbs of LS, about 60-70lbs of LR, several crabs, snails, porcelain crabs, an Eibli angel, a keyhole angel (yes, they get along), a green mandarin dragonet, 2 green chromis, a yellowtail damsel, a maroon clown, a longnose butterfly, and a foxface. We just changed the lighting from the standard hood flourescent lights to a 260W Power Compact.
We really want to add an anemone or two (for our clown and porcelain crabs). I was considering getting into the coral game and wanted some suggestions that would work considering what we currently have in the tank (cause with all of the live rock, I don't see myself catching and getting rid of anything without either breaking the tank or having a nervous breakdown!).
Here is a picture of our tank right now (I don't know if the structure of my live rock will have any effects, but if it does, consider the rock as well)

 

[hot883]

NO ANEMONE with that lighting. You can all the large
featherdusters you want,
mushrooms
gorgonians
zoanthids
ricordeas
kenya tree up high
open brain
NO ANEMONE
Did I mention ,NO anemones

 

[watson3]

Originally Posted by hot883
NO ANEMONE with that lighting. NO ANEMONE
Did I mention ,NO anemones

Opinion...

 

[hot883]

Originally Posted by watson3
Opinion...
Personal tragedy.

 

[watson3]

It has and still is being done in many a tank...Many variables though I admit

 

[hot883]

I am not saying PC's are not good enough for anemones. I am sayin that a 55 gallon with 260w of PC's are not good enough.
But then again Watson you know this as you are always just trying to start trouble.

 

[watson3]

Originally Posted by hot883
But then again Watson you know this as you are always just trying to start trouble.

Barry
Not true..I have a 55 running 260PC just for this reason..Feel free to look at the pics I have previously Posted..

 

[browniebuck]

ok, gentlemen to your corners!!! That's the only thing I hate about this message board...all the bickering!!!
I have heard from my LFS and experienced aquarists that this can be done, as most anemones need a minimum of 4 watts per gallon.
What was the personal tragedy??

 

[hot883]

Originally Posted by browniebuck
ok, gentlemen to your corners!!! That's the only thing I hate about this message board...all the bickering!!!
I have heard from my LFS and experienced aquarists that this can be done, as most anemones need a minimum of 4 watts per gallon.
What was the personal tragedy??
Short term success shows NOTHING. 2 years with an anemone under PC's is great success.
I was told by the LFS that my 55 w/260w of PC's would work for my Long Tentacle (LTA). it did not. lasted 6-7 months.

 

[triga22]

My LFS has one in a 55 with pc and its been there for 2-3 years. No problems.

 

[browniebuck]

who said anything about short term success? The experienced aquarists that I am talking about have had similar parameters regarding lights (watts/gallon) for several years.

 

[watson3]

Originally Posted by browniebuck
who said anything about short term success? The experienced aquarists that I am talking about have had similar parameters regarding lights (watts/gallon) for several years.

 

[watson3]

Barry-
Just leave killing anemones to us..You just worry about your town..

Have a good one..

 

[hot883]

Big difference between beginners and Experienced Hobbiest.
This is the rules I live by:
If you have to ask about a tang in your size of tank; YOU ARE NOT READY
If you ask about anemones in a new tank with PC's; YOU ARE NOT READY
If you want a mandarin dragonette w/less than 100lbs of LR; YANR
We all staRT OFF with no knowledge. Some of us learn from OUR mistakes, others will learn from others mistakes.

 

[cjml]

Originally Posted by hot883
Big difference between beginners and Experienced Hobbiest.
This is the rules I live by:
If you have to ask about a tang in your size of tank; YOU ARE NOT READY
If you ask about anemones in a new tank with PC's; YOU ARE NOT READY
If you want a mandarin dragonette w/less than 100lbs of LR; YANR
We all staRT OFF with no knowledge. Some of us learn from OUR mistakes, others will learn from others mistakes.
But how can we learn if we do not ask questions? We should not feel intimidated to ask questions. Thats what makes us fail.

 

[hot883]

Originally Posted by cjml
But how can we learn if we do not ask questions? We should not feel intimidated to ask questions. Thats what makes us fail.
Questions are great. It is the smart guys that do nothing but start trouble that make it bad for everyone else.
Healthy conversation is good, being rude and ALWAYS starting trouble NOT good.
There is a search feature at the top. Most people do not know it is there and get mad when no one answers their questions; when that SAME question has been asked 10 times today.
We want your success, not failure.
I am a moderator and my answers come from MY experience so I can give guidance. If I am wrong I WILL admit it immediately.

 

[triga22]

Barry lets say my Angel dies for no reason. That dosent mean I should tell everyone angels are bad to have. If you anenome died under 260 watts ok. But to me it seems there are more cases of it doing good. Like I said my LFS has one for 2-3 years. Sorry to flame you im just saying that ones experience could be different.

 

[hot883]

Originally Posted by TriGa22
Barry lets say my Angel dies for no reason. That dosent mean I should tell everyone angels are bad to have. If you anenome died under 260 watts ok. But to me it seems there are more cases of it doing good. Like I said my LFS has one for 2-3 years. Sorry to flame you im just saying that ones experience could be different.
Oh, I see what you are saying. I'm just saying 99% of the time an anemone is NOT going to survive under those conditions.
Have you seen this anemone at the LFS for 2 years or taking his word?
Angels die all the time. They are harvested with cyanide the majority of the time so no great surprise there. (I know that was an example)

 

[yomommasmom10]

Dude my fish sales man dude is stupid he has anenomes under regular lights (stock) he hased to buy them like every week over and over again

 

[reefkprz]

on average the success rate for keeping anemones over 5 years in captivity drops to around 30% (this was a research survey results I'm not stating it as a rock solid gaurantee) of the thirty percent most were bubble tip anemones and multiplied often in the successful tank. the key to success in most cases seemed to be Proper lighting, strict water quality control, and dare I say A bit of luck, (I would say good feeding habvits to but I cant confirm that.) the other anemone that did very well in the study was condylactilus. long tentacles usually made about three years in the longer cases. btu as I said this is only one research study but can be used as a kind of sugestion as to the dificulty of maintaining them long term to to the proclivities for fluctuation in closed systems. thats pretty much my two cents on it. I have had great success in growing anemones for resale but never kept any for more than 8 months, So I dont even know if I could make it live for long term, I know I can get a condy and double its size in about 3 months then resell it. But I also am insane on water changes and have very strict non-varying rituals on tank maintinence.