65g agressive stocking list.

[lucky45]

Hey all, i recently inherited a beautiful 65 gallon tank with all the needed equipment. I'd like to turn it into an aggressive FOWLR tank. One thing i definatly want is some kind of an eel, as i find them very interesting. Other things ive been thinking of are puffers and frogfish. I'm almost certain i wouldn't want a trigger due to their aggresive nature. Again, im open to ideas so feel free to post what you think would work with an eel.

 

[kirkaz]

Good luck. There are good Triggers out there too, look into a Humu, or maybe a Pinktail, triggers are very entertaining fish. You also might look at a wrasse, I like the Lunare (inexpensive, beautiful, and hardy). Your tank is a bit small, so don't overstock...and keep in mind bigger puffers eat a lot, and create a lot of waste.

 

[lucky45]

What about frogfish?, havent heard much about them....

 

[kirkaz]

Originally Posted by Lucky45
What about frogfish?, havent heard much about them....

Fascinating fish...you can't have any fish small enough to fit in it's mouth (and it has a pretty big mouth). Really fun to put a live feeder shrimp in and watch the festivities, if you blink you might miss it. Not really sure about tank size for a Frogfish though, the one my friend had was in a 125.

 

[lucky45]

Originally Posted by kirkaz
Fascinating fish...you can't have any fish small enough to fit in it's mouth (and it has a pretty big mouth). Really fun to put a live feeder shrimp in and watch the festivities, if you blink you might miss it. Not really sure about tank size for a Frogfish though, the one my friend had was in a 125.
Hmmm ok thanks, ill make sure i do my research before i make the desicion to add it to my 65.

 

[grouperlover]

Originally Posted by kirkaz
Fascinating fish...you can't have any fish small enough to fit in it's mouth (and it has a pretty big mouth). Really fun to put a live feeder shrimp in and watch the festivities, if you blink you might miss it. Not really sure about tank size for a Frogfish though, the one my friend had was in a 125.

Your not supposed to feed any freshwater fish or shrimp it will kill your fish quicker

 

[nigerbang]

Originally Posted by Lucky45
Hey all, i recently inherited a beautiful 65 gallon tank with all the needed equipment. I'd like to turn it into an aggressive FOWLR tank. One thing i definatly want is some kind of an eel, as i find them very interesting. Other things ive been thinking of are puffers and frogfish. I'm almost certain i wouldn't want a trigger due to their aggresive nature. Again, im open to ideas so feel free to post what you think would work with an eel.

Triggers can be good fish...Humu are known to snap and wipe a tank clean...Most trigger will outgrow a 65...Wouldnt try it...Puffers...I think a Valentini would work...Not sure though...Dont know to much about puffers...Frogfish require a stable system as far as I know...Species only kinda thing...Someone else will chime in on that I am sure..What kinda eel we talking here..?

 

[lucky45]

Oh well obviously not a large one

maybe a chainlink or snowflake? Or other small ones...dont know many types of eels....

 

[azul1994]

If you are to get an eel you should probably go with a snowflake because most other eels with outgrow a 65.

 

[grouperlover]

you might be able to also try a banded not a zebra moray or maybe chainlink

 

[trigger29]

Originally Posted by Lucky45
Hey all, i recently inherited a beautiful 65 gallon tank with all the needed equipment. I'd like to turn it into an aggressive FOWLR tank. One thing i definatly want is some kind of an eel, as i find them very interesting. Other things ive been thinking of are puffers and frogfish. I'm almost certain i wouldn't want a trigger due to their aggresive nature. Again, im open to ideas so feel free to post what you think would work with an eel.

i have a 60 gallon aggresive tank i am currently uprgading to a 180 but in my tank i have a Lion fish and Porcupine Puffer a Bursa Trigger he is not aggreasive at all and a Blue-Line trigger he is not aggresive right now but when he gets bigger he will be and a Toad fish
my porcupine puffer is so active and is awesome
my lion fish is so humble dosnt bother anyone and nobody messes with him a lion fish is awesome and is perfect to have with an eel and they are beautiful fish
here is a picture of my toadfish
i think taod fish and frog fish are the same but im not positive

and heres my blu-line thats my baby they look awesome when there grown

 

[lucky45]

Ok this is alllllmoost finalized but what do you guys think? a snowflake eel and a frogfish/toadfish (preferably toadfish...i just think they are cooler....
Also if i get the a-okay for this where on earth can i find a toadfish????

 

[trigger29]

Originally Posted by Lucky45
Ok this is alllllmoost finalized but what do you guys think? a snowflake eel and a frogfish/toadfish (preferably toadfish...i just think they are cooler....
Also if i get the a-okay for this where on earth can i find a toadfish????

Well snowflake eels are bad ass but eels are a little more work because they try and get out of your tank if theres even the littlest whole in the top of your tank (weahter its your back plastic strip or if your glass top/lid or canopy is open they will jump out and kill themselves all eels pretty much do it
but a toadfish i found mine at my fish store. i live in vegas though
do you have a fish store where you live like just fish not a ***** or petsmart or anything like that
if you do and they dont have it you can ask them to try and get one or you can look online on this site all ive seen is frogfish
but theres other websites like ww.saltwaterfishshop.com
and theres a couple other you might beqable to find them on

 

[crimzy]

Originally Posted by Lucky45
Ok this is alllllmoost finalized but what do you guys think? a snowflake eel and a frogfish/toadfish (preferably toadfish...i just think they are cooler....
Also if i get the a-okay for this where on earth can i find a toadfish????

In my humble opinion, I don't think you would end up happy with this tank. The snowflake, which is probably the best fit for you, is not extremely active unless feeding and the frogfish is also generally inactive. So, with this tank, 95% of the time that you look at the tank you will see only rocks and no fish. If it were me I'd go with the snowflake, a dwarf lion, maybe a blue throat trigger, a dwarf angel (bicolor, coral beauty, flame) and a valentini puffer. If you had pretty good filtration and a decent skimmer, I think this combination would work well.
BTW, although I like his tank, I disagree with Trigger29's fish selection because an aggressive trigger will, at some point, kill a lion. I've seen it too many times.

 

[lucky45]

Hmm well maybe i can do a blue throat triger, toadfish, snowflake eel and valentini (spelling?)

is that not overstocking for a 65g??? like some opinions.....and would their be any fights between the fishes?

 

[trigger29]

no i dont think that would be overstocking at all thats just about perfect and a nice selection of fish i think the tank would look awesome
and yes to agree with crimzy sometimes triggers do attack lions ive never seen it ive heard of it a couple times on this site but if you want to play it safe you might not want to try it lol

 

[nigerbang]

Originally Posted by TriGGer29
no i dont think that would be overstocking at all thats just about perfect and a nice selection of fish i think the tank would look awesome
and yes to agree with crimzy sometimes triggers do attack lions ive never seen it ive heard of it a couple times on this site but if you want to play it safe you might not want to try it lol

You dont think thats overstocked...I didnt figure you would with your stocklist....
Eels - Nasty critters....Produce so much waste..Its best to do a water change 1-2 days after they are fed...Everytime they are fed....
Triggers - Might be okay for awhile..Hell the eel would be okay for a while.
Also nasty when it comes to terriorty, and feeding..
As fas as filtering for a tank with this stock list....It better be top notch and you would have to be on your toes with water changes..

 

[v-lioness]

Lion, Toadfish, Frogfish and other scorpion fish all prey on each other in the wild, it will eventually happen in your tank, who eats who just depends on which is bigger at the time. They are simply not compatible.
Frogfish, Anglers require a species only tank, these are not community fish.
As far as Lions and triggers IMO, there are a few that can be combined, in the proper tank (very important), triggers are territorial fish, and require space, the larger the trigger the larger the territory. It is not uncommon for a trigger to kill a lion, that blue-line trigger is a ticking time bomb and a matter of time before it kills your lion. Triggers are fast swimmers, messy eaters that produce a lot of waste, IMO not suitable for a 65g tank.
Kaye

 

[kirkaz]

Originally Posted by Grouperlover
Your not supposed to feed any freshwater fish or shrimp it will kill your fish quicker
Uh yeah...good call on that...sort of...some feeder shrimp come right from the ocean, in fact our hosts at saltwaterfish.com will sell you feeder shrimp for like 10 for $8 or something.