affordable zoos threads.

michaeltx

Moderator
Guys there was 4 different threads going in several different directions I dont have a problem with this getting together and neither does admin BUT you are going to have to keep it confined to ONE thread so that it can actually get somewhere if you wish it to.
So this is that thread please use this thread to set the plan into stone or whatnot and keep it confined to here please.
Thank you
Mike
 

clownfish11

Active Member
Alright Thanks
Okay so guys let collabarte and think of a list
everyone post ONE! zoa they would like to recieve..JUSTONE! not 2 or 3 JUST ONE!
 

michaeltx

Moderator
really need to get a set in stone plan first i understand the want and excitment but it will go alot further and be more rewarding for everyone that does get envoled if there was something set in stone as this is the way its going to be. Set up who is going to do what then decide on what is going to be done.
I do however want something about the risks of joining and being part of this to be upfront and very well displayed. I also want as part of it that SWF.com is not liable for anything and is not involved in this in anyway. Just for the sake of adding it admin doesnt need to receive emails of blam if something does happen to go wrong in the process.
Mike
 

nwdyr

Active Member
ok, I feel like a bit of a dork here but I dont even understand what this thread is about
sorry
 

michaeltx

Moderator
there are 4 locked threads in this area where people are wanting to get together pay x amount of money to one person to buy and raise and frag out enough for all the investors for a rare or hard to come by zooanthid.
Mike
 

scopus tang

Active Member
Thank you Michael, things were going in so many different directions I couldn't keep up. Thanks for setting this up so I can continue to modify it here ~ very cool!RZA (Rare Zoa Association) Rules of Participation
Grower

reefkprZ will QB the growing of two initial frags. He will be responsible for receiving, growing, fragging and shipping the frags to the waiting participants on the list. Z will recieve a frag off of each colony he grows for free
Planner

COWFISHRULE will be the planner. His job will be to collect the money, order the initial frags, and put the names on the list in the order that they paid. He will also officially close each list on each zoa once the maximum number of participants has been reached. The list must be kept updated, and posted as to who has paid, what order they are in, and when the frags are shipped. He is the only one that may contact the grower in dealing with this whole operation. He is responsible for supplying the addresses of the next receiver to the grower and relaying tracking info. He will also receive a free frag off of each colony that he organizes and handles info for.
Rules of Participation

1. Everyone who participates will contribute $20.00+ to cover the initial cost and shipping charges of the frag they desire
2. Limit of 10 people per frag (those who already indicated they are interested have first crack (since there are going to be six initial choices there is no limit, but bidding will be round-robin to allow everyone a chance at the zoas) ~ after that it opens up to anyone else who wants in)
3. No one gets a frag until there are enough polyps for everyone to receive their individual 3 polyp frag (that means the original frag has to grow to 36 polyps)
4. Grower and Planner each receive their frag for free
5. Everyone pays final shipping costs over and above initial costs to receive their frag
6. Each individual who receives a frag agrees that if they continue to grow and frag their zoa they will continue to offer it on this forum for the same cost per polyp that they originally paid.
Conditions of Participation

1. Everyone who participates understands that it could be a year or more before they receive their frag.
2. Everyone who participates understands they could lose their initial investment as a result of unforseen circumstances (tank crashes, shipping error, etc.) and agrees not to hold planner or grower or Saltwaterfish.com responsible for their lose
3. Everyone who participates understands that the zoa colony may morph as a result of tank conditions and that the frag they receive may not resemble the original frag that was purchased.
4. Everyone who participates understands that if they violate these rules (for example, by contacting the grower directly) they will be expelled from the association and forfeit their initial investment.
PMs sent to COWFISHRULES to see if he can agree to these terms.
 

bronco300

Active Member
is there anything that needs ironed out that if the grower is as fault for a mistake...if its going to only be 10 per frag(which seems extremely small)...i think its going to be needed that the people who get on the first list are not eligible until for another few rounds so others are also able to get in...or if there is a major list of every single person involved, to go with the first 10 or however many people are involved...then the next group, and so one, then anyone added goes at the bottom...and can get back to the start...that make sense? what were you thinking that route>
 

scopus tang

Active Member
Official list of 1st choice Participants for Round #1
1. FishyGurl
2. alix2.0
3. Clown4Life
4. Rebelprettyboy
5. PerfectDark
6. joebob7
7. Jeffreyyy
8. iyachtuxivm
9. whyamisofl
10. ClownFiSH11
11. kholla12
12. Scopus Tang
13. mkzimms
14. Shaun Larlee
15. HowardJ
16. MaTT B
17. ReefForBrains
18. Bronco300
19. jpc763
20. earnit33
21. Saltysteele
22. Mr.M
23. Spiderwoman
24. GreenReefer
25. Metweezer
26. yerboy
27. flricordia
28. Open (but maybe filled)
29. Open
30. Open
Changes in red assume that non of the following are interested in participating in round #1; I did not add the following to the list, because they gave input but did not indicate they wanted in; kevin34, Deltablack22, and texasarrowhead. If they (you) want in, PM me and I will modify the list according to when you initially chimed in. If I missed anyone PM and I will add you to the list as well
 

scopus tang

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bronco300
http:///forum/post/2626633
is there anything that needs ironed out that if the grower is as fault for a mistake...if its going to only be 10 per frag(which seems extremely small)...i think its going to be needed that the people who get on the first list are not eligible until for another few rounds so others are also able to get in...or if there is a major list of every single person involved, to go with the first 10 or however many people are involved...then the next group, and so one, then anyone added goes at the bottom...and can get back to the start...that make sense? what were you thinking that route>
Bronco, what are you thinking as far as the grower being at fault for a mistake? My thought on the continuation is that the initial 10 will each become their own grower/planner for the initial frags received and therefore anyone else who wants one of those frags would be able to PM the original 10 (list would remain posted) and reserve frags. Granted that no doubt we will lose some along the way, but thats life. Seems to me that the original list only gets first crack the first time around (i.e. the first set of frags ~ don't think everyone on the initial list is going to want one of every one of the frags, so it should leave openings for others who want in) after that its first paid, first on the list ~ if that makes sense?
 

howardj

Active Member
Scopus - I know that the nominated person was COWFISH, but shouldn't Erick collect the money, since he is the grower?
EDIT:://
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
Who's Mike?
Michael TX..
 

bronco300

Active Member
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2626657
Bronco, what are you thinking as far as the grower being at fault for a mistake? My thought on the continuation is that the initial 10 will each become their own grower/planner for the initial frags received and therefore anyone else who wants one of those frags would be able to PM the original 10 (list would remain posted) and reserve frags. Granted that no doubt we will lose some along the way, but thats life. Seems to me that the original list only gets first crack the first time around (i.e. the first set of frags ~ don't think everyone on the initial list is going to want one of every one of the frags, so it should leave openings for others who want in) after that its first paid, first on the list ~ if that makes sense?
i dont really know for sure about the grower's fault, why i wondered if there was anything being missed....as far as the inital 10 being a grower that makes sense...i would see alot of people wanting one of all of them though, unless its a zoo they already have...but maybe not, depending on what shipping ends up being...just thoughts to consider.
 

scopus tang

Active Member
HowardJ;2626665 said:
Scopus - I know that the nominated person was COWFISH, but shouldn't Erick collect the money, since he is the grower?
If Erick is more comfortable doing it that way, I fine with it, just makes it more complicated, cause he will then constantly be having to let COWFISH know who has payed. To me it makes more sense that the person in charge of the lists be in charge of the money as well ~ that way Z gets payment in one lump sum and can concentrate on the growing instead of the paperwork.
Originally Posted by HowardJ
http:///forum/post/2626665
EDIT:://
Michael TX..
Gottcha
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scopus tang

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bronco300
http:///forum/post/2626667
i dont really know for sure about the grower's fault, why i wondered if there was anything being missed....as far as the inital 10 being a grower that makes sense...i would see alot of people wanting one of all of them though, unless its a zoo they already have...but maybe not, depending on what shipping ends up being...just thoughts to consider.
Nothing wrong with looking for holes, that way we get them all plugged. I don't know, if you figure $10 to $20 per frag, plus shipping etc., its going to end up getting expensive fairly fast. Also, individuals will have to consider what they have room for in their own individual tanks ~ I for example, don't have room for ten more zoa frags
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bronco300

Active Member
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2626681
Nothing wrong with looking for holes, that way we get them all plugged. I don't know, if you figure $10 to $20 per frag, plus shipping etc., its going to end up getting expensive fairly fast. Also, individuals will have to consider what they have room for in their own individual tanks ~ I for example, don't have room for ten more zoa frags
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no room for more frags?! there is always room for more zoos
yea it can add up very fast..but what about in the case some people do get on every list..with only 10 any others on the initial list would always wait, along with anyone else who wants in it...may not happen, but if it does, then is that just the breaks?
 

joebob7

Member
but we ALWAYS can make room for more zoas!
could we order 2 frags at a time so if one dies then we still have another?
 
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