Amquel +, and possivle pH??? nubie problems

[veeraj87]

how effective is this for a tank pH7.8 SG 1.021 Temp 80, nitrite 1.00ppm, ammonia 1.00, nitrates 0 (actually not sure what nitrates are the first three colors on API test are almost same ???

, tank has one clownfish ... second question, doi need to raise the pH of 7.8 ???

 

[veeraj87]

i have added amquel and the ammonia is now down to 0 using the salicylic tests, however i o know that it needs to be removed through either water change or until the bacteria converts it, will this shock my nitrogen cycle, becuz i think that my tank might not have been perfectly cycled, and its been like a total of 4 weeks, for the 10 gallon , and this one clown has been in for 2 weeks, so was wondering if the nitrites will also be eliminated by amquel +?? also the fish is swimming a lot better then he was before the amquel however he is swimming near teh top, its been over 24 hours does this mean the amquel is most likely taking out the oxygen ???? Also i used Garlic treatment becuz the fish had something eating away at the first stripe near the head, and is slowly healing, however he is still not eating the frozen food and flakes i ahve, which have been soaked in garlic as well, and even without... any suggestions???? (btw garlic to the tank is amazing in terms of the activeness its created in my fish doesnt look sick or dying as it was before, but not sure how long this will last its only been a few hours, lets see ill keep u up to date)

 

[veeraj87]

Originally Posted by Veeraj87
http:///forum/post/2464827
i have added amquel and the ammonia is now down to 0 using the salicylic tests, however i o know that it needs to be removed through either water change or until the bacteria converts it, will this shock my nitrogen cycle, becuz i think that my tank might not have been perfectly cycled, and its been like a total of 4 weeks, for the 10 gallon , and this one clown has been in for 2 weeks, so was wondering if the nitrites will also be eliminated by amquel +?? also the fish is swimming a lot better then he was before the amquel however he is swimming near teh top, its been over 24 hours does this mean the amquel is most likely taking out the oxygen ???? Also i used Garlic treatment becuz the fish had something eating away at the first stripe near the head, and is slowly healing, however he is still not eating the frozen food and flakes i ahve, which have been soaked in garlic as well, and even without... any suggestions???? (btw garlic to the tank is amazing in terms of the activeness its created in my fish doesnt look sick or dying as it was before, but not sure how long this will last its only been a few hours, lets see ill keep u up to date)
bump

 

[michaeltx]

yeah it will slow your cycle down did you have any livestock in the tank that you are worried about or just the readings?
here is a good rule of thumb if you cant test for it DONT ADD it there are several things that build up in the tank and can become toxic very quickly and wipe out the tank.
next thing on removing the best way is a skimmer if you have one just turn it up and it will pull it out if its running now after you added it then watch it carefully cause it will froth over. since you are cycling your PH is fine once the cycle is over and you do your water change it should level out to the correct range.
Mike

 

[veeraj87]

bump, some more input on what steps i should take would help, i do have livestock, and its a clownfish and it wont eat... please help

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Veeraj87
http:///forum/post/2465483
bump, some more input on what steps i should take would help, i do have livestock, and its a clownfish and it wont eat... please help
Have you been doing regular water changes? Leave the ph where it is. A lower ph is good when there is ammonia in the tank. How long has it been cycling now? Are you seeing any improvement? Do you have LR in the tank?

 

[veeraj87]

Hey i have no LR in teh tank, the tank has been cycling or up and running for a little over 4 weeks now, the only improvement i ahve seen is that theres no ammonia AFTER i added the Amquel + , however the nitrites still wont go DOWN... its soo frustrating... Amquel is a temporary solution i know, but im hoping my tank is cycling properly, and those NITRITES go away

any suggestions?

dont want my clown to die

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Veeraj87
http:///forum/post/2466039
Hey i have no LR in teh tank, the tank has been cycling or up and running for a little over 4 weeks now, the only improvement i ahve seen is that theres no ammonia AFTER i added the Amquel + , however the nitrites still wont go DOWN... its soo frustrating... Amquel is a temporary solution i know, but im hoping my tank is cycling properly, and those NITRITES go away

any suggestions?

dont want my clown to die

There isn't much that you can do other than keep up on the water changes. If you could buy a piece or two of cured rock that would certainly help with biological filtration. Add the rock to a bucket with a heater and a powerhead for a few days just to be certain that there is no die off.

 

[veeraj87]

How much longer toproperly cycle ? Also my clown has some fuzzy stuff on the stripe by the head doesnt look like brooklynella or ick also it has some dots that look like tiny holes ? Any idea so i can start a proper treatment also he wont eat so if u got any ideas

 

[nereef]

the cycle will be done when it's done. this means you will have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, and some nitrates. proper treatment for the clown would have included: seeing it eat at the store, taking it home to qt to make sure it is eating and not diseased, and not placing it in an uncycled tank.

 

[veeraj87]

gee thanks neREEF really appreciate it, you helped me understand soo much ... your a smart cookie... if you dont got anything helpful to say please refrain

 

[nereef]

i was simply attempting to answer your questions. if you sensed any sarcasm or malice in my statement, i apologize. however, i believe my statements were factual and helpful in this case. if you look at the facts i stated, instead of trying to dig up a negative connotation, you would probably find them helpful.
i suppose i'll restate what i said in a way that won't hurt your feelings.
in order for a tank to be properly cycled, you need to start the cycle with food for the bacteria. this will give an ammonia spike, as the first stage of aerobic bacteria break down the food source. then there will be a nitrite spike, as the second stage of aerobic bacteria go to work. at the same time, you will start to see ammonia levels falling, as the first oxidizing bacteria begin to catch up to adequate levels. then nitrates will start to slowly rise, and the nitrites will drop down as the ammonia levels dropped earlier. when the cycle is completed, there will be no measurable ammonia or nitrites in the water column. i've seen this process take anywhere from 2 to 7 weeks to reach completion.
for the second question...if you can post a pic, we can tell you what is going on with the clown. in any case, the fish needs to be isolated and treated (in a quarantine tank).

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Vera
http:///forum/post/2466274
How much longer toproperly cycle ? Also my clown has some fuzzy stuff on the stripe by the head doesnt look like brooklynella or ick also it has some dots that look like tiny holes ? Any idea so i can start a proper treatment also he wont eat so if u got any ideas
The fuzzy stuff is likely lymphocystis. It cannot be dealt with until your water parameters are under control. It is not deadly. PLEASE go buy a piece or two of cured rock. There will be so much bacteria on there and it will help your system so much. Add it to a bucket for a few days to be certain that there is no die off. You don't want to make the situation worse, but if it is fully cured at the LFS, and they box it with water, then it should be fine. Don't take my word for it, always add new rock to a bucket with a power head and a heater for a few days first. Normally I would say to QT the rock. Just make sure that there were no fish in the cured rock tank.