An introduction and question on substrate

jwilson

New Member
Hi all,
First let me start with an introduction. My name is Jim, I am a former SW tank owner from back in the early 80’s when SW fish keeping was FW with salt in it and a sand bed with plenum/under gravel filter. That experience was great but bachelorhood, moving and fishkeeping were a difficult mix.
Now, older and with more time and money I’m going to get back into the hobby with a 90 Gallon AGA Tech tank that I bought last year and have been planning the set up of ever since. I am planning a community tank that will have pretty mild mannered fish and corals, inverts, etc.
The DT will be on the first floor and I have a 25 gal sump with a Marine Technical Concepts HSA-1000 skimmer. I’m also setting up a 20 gallon long refugium and a 10 gallon QT tank. The refugium will be after the main supply pump and return it’s flow back to the pump side of the sump. In the refugium I plan to have chaeto on a reverse daylight timing and run one of two separate heaters there with the other being in the sump. It's main function will be to grow pods and RDP. Water will be from a mixing station that I am putting together using RO/DI water and I plan on using Marine Environment salt. Lighting will be handled by Outer Orbit Pro Series HQI/T-5/LED Lights with 2x 250W MH’s and 4x54W T-5’s and moon lights. I don’t have a chiller yet, and I’m hoping I won’t need one since the sump and the fuge are in the basement. The tank flow will be from the main pump, an Iwaki RLT100 which is sized to give just under the 1200 GPH that the dual returns can handle while also providing about 100 GPH to the fuge. Other in tank flow will be from (3) Koralia-2’s that will be on a Digital Aquatics ReefKeeper-II controller to get some oscillation as well as protect the larger of the heaters in case it fails “on”. Right now I am up to the point of having purchased all the above, and I'm currently building the fishroom/doing the plumbing.
For inhabitants I am thinking along these lines: a pair of common Clownfish, a Blue Flasher Wrasse, a Royal Gramma, a Yellow Tang, (6) Pajama Cardinal fish, a Lawnmower Blenny, a pair of Firefish, maybe a Naso or Hippo Tang and also maybe a long horned cowfish since the rest of the gang is pretty peaceful and I don’t think he will get attacked and nuke the tank and, since in my earlier years I had one, it wasn’t a problem and “Elsie” was one of my favorite fish.
Now, if you’ve read this far…… thanks. I’d appreciate any comments on what I wrote so far and now I am up to my questions – a bit on inhabitants and substrate.
At issue is that I want to have a Randall’s goby/ Randall’s Pistol shrimp pair but I prefer the look of a shallower sand bed and I don’t think I want, or need, a deep sand bed. Can I put in a 1” sand depth, and have a shrimp goby pair? I’m thinking that the shrimp will move some sand to make it deep enough for their burrow or is that just too shallow a bed? If that will work, I’ve read that the best for burrowers is a mix of larger and smaller pieces. So I was figuring on roughly a 50/50 mix of Nature's Ocean Bio-Active Reef Sand (0.5-1.7 mm grain) and their Reef Substrate which has 1.0-2.5 mm grain with small shells/shell pieces. Will the coarser sand be too big/tough on the cucumber?
Again, thanks for taking the time to read this and I appreciate any comments you might have for me.
Jim
 

oceansidefish

Active Member
Personally I would do a deeper sand bed if you want a goby pistol shrimp pair. Mine are CRAZY and go through complete remodels on a daily basis. I am actually thinking of getting them their own tank because its becoming destructive to my sand dwelling corals. I have lost all 3 brains because they burried them. I would also add a larger sump if I were you. 25g is on the small end IMPO. I have a 30g on my 60g tank. FYI the tangs are going to be a stretch in that tank. Most people here would want to see them in at least a 120. The sand mix is fine but I would run a deeper bed for them. Mine piled half of the sand in my tank to one side and use anything and everything the shrimp can lift.
 

jwilson

New Member
Hmm... thanks Ocenasidefish; I was guessing at tha sump size, so after your post I did a quick look/calculation. Total sump dimensions are 36"x18"x16.5"High, with the lower baffle at 10.88". So I guess it's 30 gallon working capacity with 45 gallon overflow capacity.
Assuming your advice ends up being the general consensus, maybe I'll just forego the shrimp/goby pair. I think they are awesome to watch etc. but I don't want to have something deeper than 1" and I would rather not have a DSB.
Regarding the fish choices vs. tank size, are you saying that it's a bit too small for two tangs or for even one?
Thanks again for taking the time.
Jim
 

oceansidefish

Active Member
With a good skimmer you will be fine. I would just make sure to go heavier on the live rock. Also make sure you overflow test your sump before you add a drop of sand to the tank. If you want to keep the sand bed at 1" I would probably axe the sand dwellers completely. You can always get a nano with a DSB for a goby/shrimp pair. I had mine in a 7.5 gallon by themselves for a long time with great success. They have currently piled up about 4-5 inches on one side of my tank that they stay very busy with. In fact they have clouded up my tank today from all the construction. In general most here will say that a 90 is a bit on the small side for any tang. There are alot of other fish that would make it a great tank. I like basslets and hawkfish for example. A midas blenny is also an awesome addition.
 
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