Attention ALL SHARKS!! Question about UV Filter!

moy

Member
I have a 46 Gallon BOWFRONT tank and am think about purchasing a UV filter. But i dont what size UV Filter to use.
Hopefully from you great advise ill get the right one. Is it a good a idea to get a Uv Filter just a bit bigger than what would be recommended for my Tank Size??
Please let me know what size to use for my 46gall Bowfront tank! :rolleyes:
 

sonny

Member
A UV sterilizer cannot be too big. Get a 25 watt UV because it is easier to find parts and bulbs for it. It will also be cheaper than a 8 watt or 15 watt because they sell more 25watt units than the others. They will not affect the bacteria in the filter since that bacteria is not fre-floating. The bulbs need to be replaced about every 12 months.
Sonny
 

goofieones

Member
You actually got to look at the UV itself and see what size tank it is recommened for. I have an Aqua Ultra Violet, I think that is the name, it was recommened to my by a lot of people on this board. Anyways I have a 72 bow, and a 15 watt was what was recommened. And the bulbs on this UV last like 12 months. I have seen other UV where the bulbs only last 6 months. It cost me around $185 with all the extras I put on. Hope this helps.
 

moy

Member
Im very confused! Every UV filter ive been checking out, each one gives different Gallon sizes for there wattages. One will say a 8watt is for some many gallons and another will say its for X amount of gallons tank size??
Is there so a thing as over filtering with the UV?? Can you "hurt" your beneficial Bacteria??
 

sonny

Member
As I said earlier, you cannot have too much UV on a system. The recommendations for sizes are suggestions for minimum amounts. It will not hurt bacteria that does not actually flow through it, as in bacteria that lives on or in rocks, bioballs, etc. A UV sterilizer works by exposing the water and whatever is in it (like protozoans or free-floating bacteria which usually are disease-causing) to Ultraviolet rays. This will kill most of these. The more powerful the UV rays are (like more wattage), the more effective it will be at killing those organisms. Since the 25 watt UV's are more common, they are less expensive. Why not get more power for less???
Another factor you need to know about is the speed that water flows through the chamber. The longer the contact time with the rays, the more effective it will be. You will do better to have a small pump feeding the UV, or plumb a valve with a Y-connector that will allow you to have a slower flow through the chamber.
Another thing to look for is a UV that has a quartz sleeve. It makes it much easier to change the bulb, since it has a glass sleeve the lamp slides into. If it doesn't have a sleeve, you will have to shut the system down while you take the whole thing apart, and have compression fittings that go over the lamp. And sometimes, it will leak after you get it going again. A real pain.
Sonny
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Overdoing on UV or no limits on UV is a debated issue. It is not a given that you can use as much UV sterilization as you want, or that you can not “overdose”. My personal opinion is that you need to get a UV that is rated for your size aquarium; the choice of brand UV you get will rate the equiptment for you.
There are, on the other hand, many hobbyists including other Sharks on this BB, that believe that you can't get too much UV.
UV sterilizers are designed to kill microbes. The goal is to kill mostly parasitic microbes as well as some bacterial and algae. The UV can't
tell the difference, however, between these negetive microbes and the other beneficial microbes that is present in aquarium water...it will zap both. Thus, IMO it is best to stick with a UV that is made for your size aquarium, and, if you have one that is bigger, then running it less than 24/7 is probably good advise.
There are many discussions on this BB regarding this matter. If you wish to review them, use the Search feature and type in UV Sterilizer.
:D
 

bobj

Member
In order to work properly each size of UV filter has an optimal flow rate through the system. If the flow is too fast then microbes etc are missed. If the flow rate is too slow than the filter cannot keep up with the reproduction of microbes etc.
As an example: a 15 watt light that can be used up to 96 gal has a optimal rate of 360gph and a 25 watt light has a optimal rate of 480gph.
I'm not sure you would want a flow rate of 480gph on a 46 gal tank.
 

ironreef

Member
bigger uv IS better. You need to have correct flow. larger unit = higher flow =better kill. Having a uv =gonna kill pods ect but not the bacteria that benifits the tank= to much. UV really aren't to effective in tanks =works best keeping parasites spreading from tank to tank cuz alot of parasites live in the substrate and will/may never make it into the uv anyway. get one rated bigger than your tank.a small one will be a waste. aqua ultraviolet is a good one get a wiper
 

pufferlover

Active Member
In this case I would agree with Beth. It seems to make sense that too much will kill too much of the good along with the bad. I currently run 2 UV's both 15W on a 135 and a 120. The mfg. Sea Storm U2 UV recommends sizes of tanks for each of the 3 they sell 8-15-25.
 

ironreef

Member
IMO most uv are useless anyway unless they are large. Having one is gonna kill. if you under rate it .the uv won't do its job effectively. If using a uv you can try to save plankton.Why? I would only use a uv in a qtank or in a multiple tank system. If used in a fowlr the plankton isn't really a loss= no corals. I would either use a big uv or not at all.IME good husbantry uv is never needed. Except in qtank.In a main tank uv isn't effective for ick. ick lives on fish then goes to the substrate. slow flow uv has a low kill. a small one even when the bugs pass still maynot kill. =UV aren't effective.By having a large on it makes up for it.
 

ironreef

Member
other reason to have a large uv to be effective. they are under rated need the big bulb for zapping power. a small one you just won't get the job done. I'm not talking 100w on a 10g but I would at least double the watt for reccommended tank
[ May 27, 2001: Message edited by: Ironreef ]
 
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