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fishman830
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wait what're the dimensions of that tank?
spmnarciso
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As long as it's not on concrete or have strong columns underneath, I believe it's really not safe. Everyone that i know, always reinforces the flooring before installing such a large amount of weight. 210 X 7 = 1470 + stand + rock. That's alot of weight. I would of never installed my 150G if I didn't have concrete under it. JMO! Good luck!
fishman830
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it would be 210*8+salt per gallon which would be +.28 per gallon so one gallon of saltwater(at 1.025) would be 8.28lbs.. then plus sand and rock etc
spmnarciso
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Originally posted by Fishman830
it would be 210*8+salt per gallon which would be +.28 per gallon so one gallon of saltwater(at 1.025) would be 8.28lbs.. then plus sand and rock etc
Thanks for the correction! You must feel special now.
fishman830
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Originally posted by spmnarciso
Thanks for the correction! You must feel special now.
dude relax.. i'm just trying to help..
fishman830
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Originally posted by jlem
Why do you add the weight of the rock and sand plus the water. won't the rock and sand displace water and pretty much weigh the same anyways regardless if you have 10 Lbs or 110 Lbs of rock ?:notsure:
hmmm i think you're right so it would actually be less than that
spmnarciso
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Originally posted by Fishman830
dude relax.. i'm just trying to help..
thanks cool dude! Just bustin' chops.
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silencer
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will my floor be able to hold my 210 tank, it is facing my front door
If it is facing the front door it won't work. You'll have to rotate the tank so it's facing the wall and put it off to the side by the little table on the left.
Ok seriously man, with all due respect, how are we supposed to answer a question like this? Will your floor be able to hold a 210 tank? How am I supposed to know? Is this "floor" on the lowest level of your house with a concrete slab underneath? Maybe you have a basement and this is technically the 2nd floor of the house? If it is a 2nd floor what direction do the joists run? How big are they and how spread out are they? Do you live in an area of the country that might have special regulations, such as a coastal area with sandy soil and high water table or maybe a colder area?
Also, why does it matter if it is facing the front door? It's not like having a tank face a door makes it explode but having it face a window makes it thrive. Seriously, what good is this information? Even if this was important, how are we supposed to know what this means? My house is almost certainly not the same design as yours. "Facing the front door" is going to mean something different to everybody here.
Now I really don't mean anything bad by this. Please don't take this the wrong way. It can be hard to know what information is useful to include if you aren't experienced in that area (and when you are, you don't need to ask the question). We really don't know anything about your situation though and nobody can give you a remotely acceptable answer.
Regardless of the information, this is really something that needs to be done in person. Many things will come into play and there just isn't a way to do this (properly) online. I would highly recommend spending a few dollars to have an expert come out and take an in-person look at the area in question. If you don't know any try calling the village/city office where you get building permits and asking them who you should call. The small amount of money you spend now could potentially save you tens of thousands of dollars by avoiding a huge disaster and is well worth it.
If it is facing the front door it won't work. You'll have to rotate the tank so it's facing the wall and put it off to the side by the little table on the left.
Ok seriously man, with all due respect, how are we supposed to answer a question like this? Will your floor be able to hold a 210 tank? How am I supposed to know? Is this "floor" on the lowest level of your house with a concrete slab underneath? Maybe you have a basement and this is technically the 2nd floor of the house? If it is a 2nd floor what direction do the joists run? How big are they and how spread out are they? Do you live in an area of the country that might have special regulations, such as a coastal area with sandy soil and high water table or maybe a colder area?
Also, why does it matter if it is facing the front door? It's not like having a tank face a door makes it explode but having it face a window makes it thrive. Seriously, what good is this information? Even if this was important, how are we supposed to know what this means? My house is almost certainly not the same design as yours. "Facing the front door" is going to mean something different to everybody here.
Now I really don't mean anything bad by this. Please don't take this the wrong way. It can be hard to know what information is useful to include if you aren't experienced in that area (and when you are, you don't need to ask the question). We really don't know anything about your situation though and nobody can give you a remotely acceptable answer.
Regardless of the information, this is really something that needs to be done in person. Many things will come into play and there just isn't a way to do this (properly) online. I would highly recommend spending a few dollars to have an expert come out and take an in-person look at the area in question. If you don't know any try calling the village/city office where you get building permits and asking them who you should call. The small amount of money you spend now could potentially save you tens of thousands of dollars by avoiding a huge disaster and is well worth it.
doodle1800
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:nope: geesh guys...
I looked at your other posts and from the looks of your pics - no. We're talking close to a ton of weight. If it was above a metal support - maybe. I would call your city hall, talk to the building inspector or someone in civil engineering, and get his/her opinion.
I looked at your other posts and from the looks of your pics - no. We're talking close to a ton of weight. If it was above a metal support - maybe. I would call your city hall, talk to the building inspector or someone in civil engineering, and get his/her opinion.
fishking
Active Member
Originally posted by Silencer
If it is facing the front door it won't work. You'll have to rotate the tank so it's facing the wall and put it off to the side by the little table on the left.
Ok seriously man, with all due respect, how are we supposed to answer a question like this? Will your floor be able to hold a 210 tank? How am I supposed to know? Is this "floor" on the lowest level of your house with a concrete slab underneath? Maybe you have a basement and this is technically the 2nd floor of the house? If it is a 2nd floor what direction do the joists run? How big are they and how spread out are they? Do you live in an area of the country that might have special regulations, such as a coastal area with sandy soil and high water table or maybe a colder area?
Also, why does it matter if it is facing the front door? It's not like having a tank face a door makes it explode but having it face a window makes it thrive. Seriously, what good is this information? Even if this was important, how are we supposed to know what this means? My house is almost certainly not the same design as yours. "Facing the front door" is going to mean something different to everybody here.
Now I really don't mean anything bad by this. Please don't take this the wrong way. It can be hard to know what information is useful to include if you aren't experienced in that area (and when you are, you don't need to ask the question). We really don't know anything about your situation though and nobody can give you a remotely acceptable answer.
Regardless of the information, this is really something that needs to be done in person. Many things will come into play and there just isn't a way to do this (properly) online. I would highly recommend spending a few dollars to have an expert come out and take an in-person look at the area in question. If you don't know any try calling the village/city office where you get building permits and asking them who you should call. The small amount of money you spend now could potentially save you tens of thousands of dollars by avoiding a huge disaster and is well worth it.
geez no need to yell at me:nope: i thought that maybe it would help to tell u that it was in my foier room by my front door. Ok so my tank is on the first floor underneath the tank is a unfinished basement with obvioulsy concrete floor, there is no support beams under it, all there is are about 6-10feet boards laying across held by wut i think is a joist hanger and the boards run intersecting the tank. Calculate this i measured how much water is in the tank the length is 72, tha depth is 24 1/2 inches and thewidth is 24 inches, and if i did the correct math there should be a total of about 183 gallons. if i can ill post a pic of were its located.
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silencer
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I was simply trying to point out that you asked a very complex question and gave us no real information to base our answers off of. This is something that really needs to be looked at in person by an expert.
fishking
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go on to this thread u will see the pic of the floor that holds my tank
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/114047/pictures-of-my-210
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/114047/pictures-of-my-210
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silencer
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That definitely needs to be reinforced but you are lucky in that it should be very easy to reinforce. You'll probably just need to get a couple 4x4's and make a frame to support those joists better. Shouldn't be difficult to do at all. You'll still want to contact a contractor or building inspector to tell you exactly what you need to do because there could be other considerations that we can't see in the photos.
In the mean time, don't jump when next to the tank
In the mean time, don't jump when next to the tank
attml
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I wouldn't trust that at all but that is just me. It looks like your joists are held in place by brackets so in affect you would have close to 2000 lbs being held up by the screws holding those brackets in place! I would very strongly consider bracing that under the tank with 4 x 4s!!! You could use deck blocks & 4 x 4s like in the picture below and then but a support beam across the top.