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shouse

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Hey i know there have been some weight trainers crawing around these boards. I'm going on a program to try and bulk up. Could really use some expert advice on the best way of doing. I'll leave the details out for now. Anyone willing to lend me a hand? thanks
 

sjg22483

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One key way to bulk up and lose fat is with nutrition and diet. I'm a college athlete and have received some excellent advice with nutrition.
First off, you don't really have to eliminate carbs or anything, try to eliminate PROCESSED carbs. This means like avoid pretzels, chips, anything that's been fried sucks for you and won't help you out. But you still need carbs in your diet if you're gonna build muscle.
For protein, there are tons of ways to go. Needless to say, if you're gonna bulk up you need to increase your excercise and eat more protein. I personally avoid the protein shakes and mixes because i prefer a natural approach, but because of that i'm not as bulky as some other guys that take supplements. For myself, i search for foods that are high in protein but low in fat, I like chicken and stuff like that a lot, seafood is great too. Beef tends to have a lot of fat, so if you want beef try to cut / drain off most of the fat as you're cooking, or buy very good cuts with low fat contents.
In terms of daily diet, here's my typical day. I'll have eggs for breakfast with some juice or milk, to get lots of protein with low sugars and fats. Skip toast... bread's somewhat ok but still has processed carbs. Fruit and veggies help even out your vitamins while not adding any fat or many carbs to your diet. For lunch (before working out), I try to eat some unprocessed carbs as well as some type of fruit in order to get some energy going. My favorite is eating oatmeal (the big tubs of it, i put in a little brown sugar for flavor too) and a bowl of apple sauce, typically with a glass of milk. Then i work out, i do a combination of weight lifting and swimming (my sport) to build muscle and burn fat, if you solely want to bulk up, stick to weights. If you want to bulk up and lose fat at the same time, lift and do something aerobic like swimming, biking, runnin, etc.
The most important part of your day for diet is right after your workout. WIthin the first 30-45 minutes after your workout is when your body accepts protein and stuff the best. This is when i'd recommend the protein shakes if you take them, i tend to go back and have a big glass of milk and maybe an egg or two, unless it's almost dinner time then i'll just eat meat instead of the eggs.
Other than that, obviously try to avoid the crap foods like desserts and stuff as much as possible. Avoid eating right before you go to bed because you don't burn off the calories, fill up on a couple glasses of water
There are really tons of ways to bulk up doing different exercises and weights etc, you just have to find something that you like and can stick to. But whatever the case, changing your diet to a low-fat, high protein with GOOD carbs will help burn fat and build muscle.
Hope this helps.
 
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shouse

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thanks that did help a lot
a couple questions off the top of my head.
I always had problem building mass. I had no problem getting cut and whatnot but gaining muscle mass was a problem.
1. Do you suggest eating as much as possible? assuming it's all healthy food
2. It is not necessary to do any cardiovascular activities to gain muscle mass?
3. what type of reps, the basic concept behind weightlifting do you support? For instance i usually do 3 sets of 10, increasing in weight each time till i can't do anymore.
4. Is there some point where i have to build up on the lower body before i can go any bigger on the upper body?
thanks for the help.
 

sjg22483

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1. Do you suggest eating as much as possible? assuming it's all healthy food
Maybe not eating as much as you can, but you should definitely have to start eating more protein and lean meats and stuff if you're exercising more. Just eat when you're hungry but don't overstuff yourself or anything.
2. It is not necessary to do any cardiovascular activities to gain muscle mass?
To gain muscle mass... no. However i still recommend it. Doing cardio and stuff will help keep your heart in shape, which is very important once you start upping the protein and muscle mass, you hear a lot about pro weightlifters having heart problems (though some are from steroids). Doing cardio will also help make your muscles more flexible as well as strong. One thing about cardio though... it does you no good to just sit on the bike for a half hour, you have to PUSH YOURSELF at all times... obviously backing off if you're starting to get hurt. But if you solely want to bulk up, i'd say focus more on weights, but don't phase out cardio all together
3. what type of reps, the basic concept behind weightlifting do you support? For instance i usually do 3 sets of 10, increasing in weight each time till i can't do anymore.
If you've been doing those types of reps in the past, they might not be working enough for you. A couple suggestions: one way to help build strength and endurance is to go to failure on each set. This means on set 1 you might start off lighter and do 18 reps, set 2 add some weight and only to 10 or so, and set 3 you might only get to like 6. If you can't do at least 6 reps on a certain weight, go down a little, you won't get much out of doing 3 reps of something. Another option would be to rotate exercises multiple times. Say you do bicep curls with 3 sets of 10 or whatever. Go do some leg press, triceps, leg extension, pullups (or lat pull downs), then go through the cycle again, you might have to lower weight the second time around. Obviously if you really want to do it right, going through everything twice is going to take a while, especially if you're doing lots of exercises. But if you leave a good 20-30 minutes in between doing a set of something, your muscles will have a slight chance to recover.
4. Is there some point where i have to build up on the lower body before i can go any bigger on the upper body?
thanks for the help.
Not that i'm aware of, but most people will put portions of both into their workout. For legs, you can do squats, leg press, leg extensions, curls, lunges, wall sits, jumps / jumprope.... there's lots to choose from. Even if your main focus is upper body, still throw in a set of leg exercises here and there to give your upper body some rest while keeping your body proportional.
One word of caution that i meant to say in my first post. ESPECIALLY if you haven't lifted much before, take it slow. Your muscles won't be used to working this hard, and you shouldn't jump into going to the gym for 2 hours every day or you're going to get seriously hurt. Build on your exercises, adding another set here or there, another exercise, and slowly increase your workout time.
One other note, don't forget your abs and core. Do pushups, situps, crunches, and all sorts of ab exercises in your workout. They're a great supplement to working the larger muscle groups.
If you're dedicated to your workouts, you will start gaining weight and muscle mass, but don't expect it to happen in the first week or two. It might take a month or more until you start to see visible results, but you'll be feeling stronger and more active long before then.
Good luck and don't get hurt
 

larrynews

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my story is eat some protein every 2 1/2 hours...if you don't your body will take it from your muscules...and if you weight 180 pounds then eat 180 grams of protein a day...the average chicken

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is about 24g of protein.....as for carbs just don't eat anything thats man made...as stated before no chips, pasta should be earlier in the day so you can burn it off....supplements are really good to help with the protein goal..but watch them some of the bars are loaded with fat....i alsways count sat fat....no more than 20 grams a day...and cardio is the the best...i stopped and my weight rocketed...i went from almost 300lbs to 180 in about 4 years then stopped cardio for many reasons and stopped eating the right way just for a little bit of time and now back to 250...sucks!!!
as for lifting to gain bulk lift heavy and less reps...
 

fishkiller

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I eat about 5 times a day when I can. Other days, I'll eat once at night after work and everything else. Sometimes, I get so busy and tired, I just forget to eat. I lost ALOT of muscle when my business started going crazy. It was like a brushfire, so I just stopped working out and stopped eating... There was just no time. Now, I'm on my way back up.. Ordered a buttload of Omaha Steaks and going to the farmers market on sunday. I'm gonna get DIESEL again.:happy:
 
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