Back in the hobby and doing it right this time!

gonefishing

New Member
I'm excited to be back into the hobby after about 2 years of being away. I ordered my RO/DI unit today =) something I didn't have in the past. If I am going to be responsible for the fish and their well being, I am going to do it right!
 
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eric b 125

Guest
welcome! what size tank are you setting up? reef/ fish only? how long were you in the hobby before your 2 year hiatus?
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Welcome to the site!
You came to the right place to help you "set up right this time" Post an equipment list so we can follow along and see what your doing. Your own RO/DI unit is a great choice, getting the best water quality is #1 on any list.
 

gonefishing

New Member
Thanks everyone! I had my tank set up for 2-3 years before we moved. I have still had the tank set up for the past two years with only a few fish in it, but I was using well water and had major problems. I tried some quick fix stuff but didn't have any luck. I decided that if I am going to be in this hobby I owe it to the fish to do it right. Right now there is major brownish looking diatoms in the tank so once the RODI unit gets here this week, I will do a major water change, etc.
Here is what I have so far- Any input on what I should add is greatly appreciated!!
125 gallon- I plant to start it as a FOWLR but build up to a reef tank over time
RO/DI unit (coming this week)
Backpack with 2 canisters
No special lighting
2 heaters
2 pumps (filters/pumps) - that's how long its been, I can't even remember the terminology
100lbs LR
100lbs(?) LS
2 false perc. clowns
1 watchman goby
1 eel
just a few crabs and snails
 

gonefishing

New Member
Yes, powerheads! Thanks, I totally couldn't remember what they were called. Also, I've always wanted to set up a sump, but I don't have the best stand for it, so I'm not sure if this that is something I will dive into. If anyone has any good suggestions or strongly feel that the tank will bennefit from it, I am definately open to trying it.
 

travelerjp98

Active Member
If I were you, I would definitely do a sump.... and an algae turf scrubber in it. I think that it would really benefit the tank.....
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
Benefits for adding a sump:
1. Increases overall water volume - helps stabilize temp, water parameters etc.
2. Increases oxygen levels - by water flowing down the pipe and increasing the overall surface area of the water.
3. Because of the increase O2 and surface area, it helps stabilize pH levels
4. It holds all of your equipment and keeps your display tank from becoming cluttered.
5. Speaking of holding equipment - you can fit much larger protein skimmers in that area, that otherwise would not be able to fit on the back of the tank. It also hides your heaters and filters, which is a major plus.
6. It can hold a refugium with macroalgae or an algae scrubber. Either one will be a great method of nutrient export and management. IT would also increase O2 levels, and stabilize your nighttime pH and temp.
7. The larger volume of water from having a sump will prevent salinity and temp swings, which harm your livestock (including fish, corals and inverts)
8. More types of equipment are adapted for sumps such as ca reactors, kalkwasser stirrers, phosphate reactors, carbon reactors,denitraters, vodka filters, DE filters, ETC ETC ETC.
9. Replacement filters can be cut from blue and white bonded filter media, which can save you money in the long run by not having to buy filter cartridges.
10. You can install an Automatic Top Off Unit (ATO) which will greatly stabilize salinity, especially in such a small tank. They also don't add a whole lot of water to your system at the same time - so it has a long dwell time to mix the water before it's added to the display tank.
That's just a few things that I can think of off the top of my head.
 

gonefishing

New Member
Haha! Thank you for the great info. Well, I agreed, I am going to do it right this time, so if it is as beneficial to the tank as you say it is, I'm all in =). When should I add it? I still have to get the RO/DO unit, I'm hoping to have it by Wednesday.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
It's better to add a sump before your tank is officially started. ... or at the time your tank is started. But, don't sweat - if you start your tank, you can still add a sump later. Glad to see you are going to do it right!
 

cubnb79

Member
welcome...i can tell you when i went from a 55gal tank with wet/dry filter i was always fighting nitrates (bioballs) i just upgraded to a 125. few weeks ago the wet/dry filter is in the garage now...i added a 30gal sump prob. 15ish gal of water in it added snakes design of algae scrubber (modified to fit in my shorter stand than what you see now days) to the sump along with protein skimmer and even with couple more fish and my nitrates are hardly detectable with a seachem test kit at the most i'd say .1ppm....that's just one example i can speak for
 

gonefishing

New Member
Thanks for the advice!! So I went down to the lfs tonight and I bought a sump and everything needed to get it running. Cost me almost $500 but I agreed to do it right this time, so I'm following through. I'm going back tomorrow morning so he can show me how to hook it up properly. The RO/DI unit still isn't in but should be there any day. Any other suggestions on what else I can do to improve the tank? Thanks!!!!
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
I don't have any personal experience with one, but many, many people say that a Vortech MP40 powerhead is the way to go these days. I'm personally getting an MP10 for my tank in the next few months.
You're really on the right track now man. Just gotta get those test kits and some high quality salt.
Is this going to stay a fish only tank, or are you going to set it up for a reef?
Better start looking into lighting and protein skimmers / scrubbers.
 

travelerjp98

Active Member
For test kits, I say go either SeaChem or API... if you can, go Hanna digital meters... but they are quite a bit more $
Salt-wise, I have yet to try, but I have heard *excellent* reviews on aquavitro salinity.
 

gonefishing

New Member
I got my RO unit up and running, about to hook the sump up, got a refactometer, new test kit, new heater and digital moniter.... I am so excited, I feel like I am about to go to the prom! =P
 

gonefishing

New Member
Okay, I have the sump running and did about a 20% water change with the new water from the RO DI unit. I tested the water and the nitrates are through the roof! I'm sure it's probably accurate because it's a new test kit. Should I do a water change right away or wait since I just did a 20% change? Is there anything else I can do to help bring them down? The LFS is closed today so I could really use some help. Thanks!
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
Unless you are running a really awesome skimmer and a scrubber, I would say wait few days before the next water change. No reason to rush.
 
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