Best way to raise ph ?

phliguy

Member
Had my water checked at a fish store and they told me the ph was 8.4. Visual chart
I just calibrated the probes on a Aquadyne
electronic controller and it is now showing
6.85.
What is the best way to raise the ph?
I know this has to be the most basic q out there,.. but hey,.. i'm just beginning.
Also the orp is 337mv what ever that means,..
Phil
 

broomer5

Active Member
Something smells fishy here

A pH reading of 8.4 using a visual chart is how most people test for pH levels. And I would hope that the folks at your lfs have enough experience using their pH test methods to not be off that much. I use ( and sell ) electronic pH analyzers and sensors and I'm curious how you calibrated your controller? Did you use pH buffer solutions ? If so, which did you use ? It is fairly easy to calibrate electronic meters, but you have to use caution when you begin to fully trust the readings. The pH scale is logarithmic, meaning that each gradation represents a factor of 10. Having the visual read around 8.4 and the same water read 6.85 with electronics is a huge difference when it comes to pH. Only thing I am saying here is be careful. Test again when you see this large of a discrepency. Any changes to pH or any water quality issue for that matter should be done gradually.
Some people find that using a product like Kent Marine Superbuffer-dKH for raising their pH works pretty good.
If indeed your pH is 6.85, how are your tank inhabitants doing? I would not try and increase the level too quickly. I once read something that went like this ~
In aquariums: good things happen slowly & disasters occur fast.
Good luck !
Broomer
[This message has been edited by broomer5 (edited 06-17-2000).]
 

phliguy

Member
Thanks for the quick response,..
The test the lfs did was on thursday and i just now have calibrated the Aquadyne 3000.
I will check into another test to verify what the ph is truly.
I used a pckt of 10 pg and a pckt 0f 7 ph to
calibrate the ph.
When i put the probe into the 10 pckt (before calibtation) it read 9.85 so i believed it would have been acurate.
Can't i just stick the ph probe into another
pckt of known ph water ,... aong with the temp
probe to see if it is actually this low,..?
Phil
 

broomer5

Active Member
Phil,
I do not have the calibration procedure for the Aquadyne pH controller, It looks like a good piece of equipment I wish I had one.
As far as accuracies go, every pH electronic device must be calibrated, and a typical calibration involves something like this;
Enter calibration mode.
Place pH probe in buffer solution of a known value ( let's say you put probe in 7.00 pH packet). This is called "standardize".
Let it stabalize for a few minutes.
Read what the display is saying, and if not exactly reading 7.00 then enter 7.00 on the keypad and enter into the unit.
Rinse the pH probe in distilled water.
Place probe in the other known pH buffer solution, the pH buffer packet of 10.00 ( called "slope" ).
Read what it is now displaying, and let it stabalize for a period or time.
If not reading exactly 10.00, then enter 10.00 on keypad and enter into unit.
Rinse probe and go back to 7.00 packet again to check, then rinse again and place it in 10.00 again to check. Sometimes you are asked to enter the temperature of the buffers at some point of the calibration procedure. This is a typical calibration method.
The pH probe puts out a millivolt signal when placed in a liquid. Typically in a buffer solution of 7.00 neutral pH, it will put out approximately 00.00 millivolts ( which the controllers displays as 7.00 ) At a pH of say 4.00 the probe will put out +177 millivolts, and in a buffer of 10 it will put out -177 millivolts. As the pH electrode ( probe ) gets old, these millivolt values will begin to drift on you, thus the need for frequent calibration checks. All you are doing when you calibrate the probe is "offsetting" this natural drift of the probe and correcting the display to read the offset. Think of the ph probe as a battery ... and as it gets older, it gets weaker. So you must calibrate the probe to the controller often to insure a correct reading.
Also be aware that it is not uncommon for the pH in our tanks to fluctuate a good deal throughout a 24 hour period. Depending on how mature your tank is, the amount of buffering capacity, number of fish/inverts and development of algae, it is not unusual for the pH to drop to around 7.9 in the early morning and get as high as 8.4 in the late evening ( assuming you are normally around 8.20 pH ).
ORP stands for Oxidation Reduction Potential, is measured in millivolts as well, and is sometimes helpful for people adding ozone to improve their water quality.
My advise to you would be to just follow the calibration instructions for your Aquadyne equipment to the letter, let the probe stabalize in between buffer solutions, don't rush the calibration procedure, and check your probe in the known buffer solutions often, especially when you noticed any changes from what you consider "normal" for you tank.
Sorry for the lengthy reply here .... but I do find pH/orp to be rather interesting measurements.
Good luck my friend
Broomer
 

krazzydart

Member
I just use the good old strip kit and it works fine for me..... i don't know why people spend so darn much money on things like this.....when the test strips are just as accurate as the high tech stuff...... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
 

phliguy

Member
Thanks Broomer and Krazzydart for the replies
.
The reason i like the electronic type is that
i should be able to let it turn on and off ozone,co2 for calcium reactor lights chiller heater and more other stuff i don't even know about yet.
Phil
 
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