I personally like them and have never had a problem with them...matter of fact I recently added several to each of my systems. Some folks knock them as vicious murders....but mine have been kewl. I also keep scarlets without problems.....just watch them and be sure to provide extra shells.....and don't freak when they find a dead or dieing creature....cause they will actively and eficiently scavenge!!!!! <img src="graemlins//eek.gif" border="0" alt="[eek]" />