blue ring octapus?

anyone here have a blue ring octapus? feel like posting any pics? i've always wanted to see one but because of them being so poisonous and rare, no one seems to have them. if you don't feel like posting pics, how is your tank set up to deal with them? what is the care like? i'd never consider caring for one, i'm just a curious aquarist.
 

robchuck

Active Member
I've read somewhere that you need a liscense to purchase a blue ring; is that true? And if I owned a LFS, a blue ring would be the last thing I would sell; no way would I go in after one for a customer, let alone the liability of selling one to a customer who accidentally gets stung by one while working on his tank one day.
 

gibbus

Member
You dont need a permit to own a blue ringed octopus. Which is funny because you need a permit to own a venomous snake which alot of species can kill a human. They have something called TTX which is Tetratoxin the same poison since in the fugupuff or pufferfish. Tetratoxin can kill a human in 15mins. You have to be stupid to get bite by a blue ringed octopus.
They dont survive that long in captivity too around 6months. Octopus require really good quality water and make sure they cant get out. I would try my hand with some of the others species before getting a blue ringed, to see if you understand octopus husbandry.
 

grouperhead

Active Member
Ed, I've pretty much figured thats why people want them. They want it because it is deadly. Maybe it makes them feel tougher? If you want an octo, go for a pygmy or other common species. Bo
 

gibbus

Member
Agree Grouperhead
Alot of people who get into keeping dangerous animals, just want them to show off to their friends. I know the serious keepers that have this animals kept them not to show up but to better understand the species and because they enjoy keeping them.
There will always be people who keep them because they want to see how far they can push there luck and show off to their friends. "look i have a cobra i am cool now, watch it strike" This are the people who really need to get out of the hobby. This are the guys you see walking down the street with there boas and pythons.
When i keep animals it is because i like them and want to better understand the species. I kept a dwarf caiman because i always like crocodilians and figured this species was the best and one that i could house for its entire life.
 

robchuck

Active Member
Thanks for the info Gibbus.
And Anthem, I love the Darwin Awards (I like to call them the "stupid people awards"). I've got the daily calander sitting on my desk at work.
 

novice150

Member
Well, I'll go for the loner award!!
Grouperhead and Gibbus: I could not disagree with you more. Not everyone keeps a species for the sheer joy or bragging rights or the "thrill" factor.
I for one decided to try my hand at a blue ring for two reasons. Fascination, and respect for them animal. I wanted to learn more about this magnificent creature.
On top of all that, I was attracted to its miniature size, and it beauty.
Gibbus: you said: when I keep animals, its because I like them and want to better understand them.
I think that sums my feeling up nicely.
 

gibbus

Member
Novice150
No offense taken. I know there are people who keep animals because they are fascinated and want to learn about the animal.
I have found that alot of people who have kept the blue ringed octopus know what they are doing and dont keep them because they want a thrill. I am just hoping that we dont reach the levels of people showing off to their friends like you see in reptiles. I have found this board to be very good for saltwater information.
Waterboy_007 if you decide to get one, octopus are interesting animals to have in the home aquarium.
 
No, i'm not considering getting one especially since ive never had a salt tank (i'm definetely considering one though). i'm not into the thrill factor thing, i was just curious about what they looked like/were like. i now know more thanks to novice150 for sending me a quick video clip. i think octopus are very neet looking, but i'll leave them to the experts for caring. thanks for all the info.
 

j21kickster

Active Member
some reasons not to buy one
1. They dont have a long life cycle
2. You need to rig the tank to be escape proof
3. They can kill you
4. The can kill others
5. Many people die by being bitten collecting them for the aquarium trade
6. They do not always show their bright color- only when they are aggitated
7. It really limits what you can keep in the tank
8. They hide almost all the time
9. they are Fragile and are easially killed during shipping
and last but not least
10.they are too expensive considering the advantages of keeping one
HTH
 

conogre

Member
Yes, yes and no.
As an ex-law enforcement officer I regularly removed rattlesnakes, coral snakes, etc. from areas when they came into contact with humans, usually releasing them into remote areas afterwards.
I ended up with a couple that couldn't be released, as they were non-native escapees (it's truly amazing what escapes both from "hobbyists" and the airlines...here in Fla. undeveloped areas adjacent to large airports are virtual zoos)
As to our tanks at home, we have lionfish, scorpianfish,rabbitfish, mantis shrimp, etc. and have never been stung by our pets either.
Blue rings are short lived, as are all the dwarf octopi....they usually die shortly after the eggs hatch, and by being small are easier to maintain than larger specimens, although using a small tank invites disaster.....if they have enough room, cover and food, they don't usually want to leave.
On the other hand, you probably won't see the animal without night vision goggles or a red light either, and even then only rarely.
As to life span and difficulty in feeding, it doesn't seem to save thousands of seahorses (oops....I forgot...they are cute...sorry)
The biggest single danger with a blue ring is that you often don't know you've been bitten until the poison takes effect due to lack of initial pain and small size.
My suggestion.....if you MUST have one, give it a large tank with LIVE food, do NOT put your hands in the tank, and be aware that it is deadly.
To me the two most dangerous animals commonly found are.......2) human beings, and 1) human beings with guns.
Your children are safer with a blue ring in a tank than with your gun in the bedroom.
 
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