Broomer 5

hnf2k

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about what you said about trying to stop my slurping noise. both of the lines are being run from the overflows into the trickle plate. one of them is about a foot, while the other is about 5 feet. they both also have elbows. so would changing the elbow still help even though one of them works fine with it?
 

broomer5

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I'm guessing that the five foot length hose/overflow is the noisy one ???
Is your wet/dry sitting over to one side under the tank ?
There may be some simple changes you could make to your plumbing/hoses to reduce or eliminate the sucking air noise.
Can you post a picture of your set up, or describe in detail how everything is hooked up underneath.
 

hnf2k

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i dont have a digital camera, but i can describe.
yes the filter is to one side...the right. the right overflow is quiet
the left one is noisy with the 5 feet of hose.
the water in the overflows is only a few inches above my dsb.(i read that it should be an inch or 2 below the normal water level so i dont know if mine being too low means anything) and if it does how do i raise it...the water just keeps getting sucked down whenever i try to add some.
the water comes out of both overflows into the trickle plate. the water then goes into the sump where it goes into a uv light and a skimmer. they both spit the water back out into the sump where it is taken back into the tank.
 

broomer5

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Here's a few things you can try if you want;
Look at the 5 foot length of hose. As it leaves the overflow bulkhead, does it droop down, then raise back up to connect to the trickle filter cover plate ? Assuming it does droop somewhat, see if you can eliminate the droop so the hose gradually slants towards the wet/dry. Support this hose with your hands, raising it up a little and listen to what happens. If this quiets the noise, then support this hose with a make shift support.
You may want to try a different return pump. What pump are you using now. Do you have a ball valve installed between the pump and the return line to the tank. Having this valve allows you to alter the flowrate to the tank - sometimes this can balance things out a little - and reduce the noise.
I don't recommend installing valves in the draining hoses or pipes of an overflow drain - although some people do this - and have reported good results. Just don't restrict the flow too much - and you may find this approach works well in your case.
Increasing or decreasing the hose diameter is another option, but again I'd be careful in making reductions.
Increasing or decreasing the hose length is one more option. Some people have extra length of hose, and coil it around, or make turns in the hose. I don't like doing this, it seemed to make mine louder. But again - all depends of each person's set up.
I prefer as straight a shot as possible from the overflow to the sump, with little restrictions, turns or low spots. This seems to allow the air an unrestricted path to vent at both ends of the hose.
Although this is not the best example, have you ever taken a one gallon milk jug full of water and try to pour it out fast.
If it's full, and you turn it upside down real fast, water begins gurgling out and you see big bubbles as the jug needs to vent to empty. So much water pours out, then you see a big gulp of air ( like in an office water cooler ).
If you tilt the milk jug as you pour it, keeping the mouth of the jug open so air can pass along with the water - the jug seems to empty a lot smoother, and it just sort of flows out.
If while you have this jug upside down, you stabbed a hole in the bottom of the jug ( now the top ) with a sharp tool, air rushes in and the water flow right on out no matter what angle you have it tilted.
Now imagine a piece of pipe extending out of the milk jug. You can see what may happen as this pipe is extended out farther from the jug.
This is sort of what can happen with our overflows and the hose/piping leading to the sump area. Sort of.
Anyways - gotta take the dog to the vet now.
Good luck - let us know how you make out ;)
 

hnf2k

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i tried straightening out the hose slowing having it on an angle and go to the trickle plate. i put the hose on top of another hose for support....and....
IT WORKED! thank you so much...now if you can figure out a way for me to cool my tank down without having to buy a chiller you will be my hero...my tank is at 81 degrees with the lights on.
also broomer, i work for a vet so if you ever got any questions(granted i am not a vet, but i can ask him for you and maybe save you a trip or maybe i might even know the answer) just ask away.
 

broomer5

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Leave it to you jeff :p to take what was otherwise a pretty productive post and give it that "little mind in the gutter" twist.
Shame shame shame ;) ya roudy nut !
Glad to hear you got your overlfow noise cured HNF2K !
As far as the vet thing - I'll keep you mind. Dog just needed her preventative heartworm shot for the year today :)
later
 
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