Buying liverock!
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james2042
Member
Originally Posted by Skadwick
http:///forum/post/2927188
This is what im thinking. Is this the kind i want? Also is that site anygood? Anyone have any experience with them???? Dont wanna get ripped off by a bad website
That rock is ok. The price is good i pay 10.99 a lb here
http:///forum/post/2927188
This is what im thinking. Is this the kind i want? Also is that site anygood? Anyone have any experience with them???? Dont wanna get ripped off by a bad website
That rock is ok. The price is good i pay 10.99 a lb here
jimvette1
Member
Skadwick,
I don't want to rain on your parade, but as soon as the Mods see your post it will be removed!
You are not allowed to post links to other web sites that are in competition with SWF.com.
As far as live rock goes, it is nearly impossible to tell from a picture what you are going to get.
I,personally have not ordered from that site.
I got the bulk of mine from SWF.com and my LFS.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but as soon as the Mods see your post it will be removed!
You are not allowed to post links to other web sites that are in competition with SWF.com.
As far as live rock goes, it is nearly impossible to tell from a picture what you are going to get.
I,personally have not ordered from that site.
I got the bulk of mine from SWF.com and my LFS.
renogaw
Active Member
Originally Posted by JimVette1
http:///forum/post/2927213
Skadwick,
I don't want to rain on your parade, but as soon as the Mods see your post it will be removed!
You are not allowed to post links to other web sites that are in competition with SWF.com.
As far as live rock goes, it is nearly impossible to tell from a picture what you are going to get.
I,personally have not ordered from that site.
I got the bulk of mine from SWF.com and my LFS.
hehe beat you to it
above is correct, and the live rock from here is supposedly great. i personally bought all mine from LFS so i could pick out the majority
http:///forum/post/2927213
Skadwick,
I don't want to rain on your parade, but as soon as the Mods see your post it will be removed!
You are not allowed to post links to other web sites that are in competition with SWF.com.
As far as live rock goes, it is nearly impossible to tell from a picture what you are going to get.
I,personally have not ordered from that site.
I got the bulk of mine from SWF.com and my LFS.
hehe beat you to it
above is correct, and the live rock from here is supposedly great. i personally bought all mine from LFS so i could pick out the majority
keith burn
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2927223
hehe beat you to it
above is correct, and the live rock from here is supposedly great. i personally bought all mine from LFS so i could pick out the majority
+1
http:///forum/post/2927223
hehe beat you to it
above is correct, and the live rock from here is supposedly great. i personally bought all mine from LFS so i could pick out the majority
+1
1990jpyj
Member
LR from SWF.com is awsome. got mine and it cycled in like a week and a half. was very happy with it. if you live in a clold area i would recomend waiting but if not i would say buy it. mine looks so nice. i bought about 50#'s of it and like 5#'s of tonga(to try it out) and it is great the corraline that i have a year later is great. i dont have alot of pods(mandrian goby) thats the only thing. i dont think i can blame it on the rock though. they have alot of differnt sizes in the package so its great when you have a nice set-up(larger-+30) if its a nano i would buy the 12# pack its got smaller peices which is kinda cool. not sure if all are like that but thats how i got mine.
good luck
good luck
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Origin:
Fiji
Colors:
Pink, Purple, Red
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
Origin:
Indonesia, South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Origin:
Tonga
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
As you can see there is really not a lot of difference in the major choices of live rock. What you want to consider is this
Whenever possible it is best to purchase live rock from a local fish store or wholesaler, because most have live rock in stock that is cured and ready to go, and you can physically see it before buying. Here are some buying points on what to look for and questions you should ask:
Tips For Buying Live Rock From A Local Fish Store
·If you are not able to have a separate set up for curing fresh live rock, buy it cured.
·Don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·Inspect the rock visually, as well as smell it. If any growth on it appears to be dying off or any detection of a foul odor is present, it is wise not to buy it, as it is probably still curing and may present you with problems you don't need.
·Inspect the live rock for any unwanted pests or hitchhikers, such as bristle worms and aiptasia anemones.
·How long have they been curing the live rock in their system? What geographic location did the rock come from? (i.e. Indo-Pacific, Caribbean, etc.?)
·What supplemental additives have they been using in their system, if any, while curing the live rock?
·If you run across "must have rock" that may not be ready, understand that and accept the responsibility and possible consequences of complications that may arise if you choose to buy it.
Tips For Buying Live Rock From An Online Supplier
·Exactly what kind of live rock will you be receiving? You'll find live rock labeled with names like cured, seeded, precured, fully cured and cycled, which usually means it can be placed directly into a main aquarium with minimal concern, but only under certain Guidelines. Names like uncured, fresh and transshipped usually means that it is live rock that should not be placed directly into a main aquarium, and you should fully cure it first.
·What type of live rock will you be receiving? Some types are denser (heavier) than others and much less porous, and some will have ample live growth on them, while others may have minimal growth.
·Once again, don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·How does the supplier pack their live rock for shipping?
·How does the supplier ship their live rock? Remember, transit time is one of the most important points. The longer the transit time, die off levels increase.
·Where is the supplier physically located? Choosing a mail order store that is relatively close to your geographic location can cut down on transit time.
·Does the supplier have a guarantee? Does it protect you against possible complications that may arise from shipping, i.e. lost, delayed, or damaged orders?
·If you have never done business with a particular mail order supplier before, get input from other aquarists if they have. This can be accomplished through emails, message boards, and chat rooms. Were they pleased with product, service, quality, etc.
Fiji
Colors:
Pink, Purple, Red
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
Origin:
Indonesia, South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Origin:
Tonga
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
As you can see there is really not a lot of difference in the major choices of live rock. What you want to consider is this
Whenever possible it is best to purchase live rock from a local fish store or wholesaler, because most have live rock in stock that is cured and ready to go, and you can physically see it before buying. Here are some buying points on what to look for and questions you should ask:
Tips For Buying Live Rock From A Local Fish Store
·If you are not able to have a separate set up for curing fresh live rock, buy it cured.
·Don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·Inspect the rock visually, as well as smell it. If any growth on it appears to be dying off or any detection of a foul odor is present, it is wise not to buy it, as it is probably still curing and may present you with problems you don't need.
·Inspect the live rock for any unwanted pests or hitchhikers, such as bristle worms and aiptasia anemones.
·How long have they been curing the live rock in their system? What geographic location did the rock come from? (i.e. Indo-Pacific, Caribbean, etc.?)
·What supplemental additives have they been using in their system, if any, while curing the live rock?
·If you run across "must have rock" that may not be ready, understand that and accept the responsibility and possible consequences of complications that may arise if you choose to buy it.
Tips For Buying Live Rock From An Online Supplier
·Exactly what kind of live rock will you be receiving? You'll find live rock labeled with names like cured, seeded, precured, fully cured and cycled, which usually means it can be placed directly into a main aquarium with minimal concern, but only under certain Guidelines. Names like uncured, fresh and transshipped usually means that it is live rock that should not be placed directly into a main aquarium, and you should fully cure it first.
·What type of live rock will you be receiving? Some types are denser (heavier) than others and much less porous, and some will have ample live growth on them, while others may have minimal growth.
·Once again, don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·How does the supplier pack their live rock for shipping?
·How does the supplier ship their live rock? Remember, transit time is one of the most important points. The longer the transit time, die off levels increase.
·Where is the supplier physically located? Choosing a mail order store that is relatively close to your geographic location can cut down on transit time.
·Does the supplier have a guarantee? Does it protect you against possible complications that may arise from shipping, i.e. lost, delayed, or damaged orders?
·If you have never done business with a particular mail order supplier before, get input from other aquarists if they have. This can be accomplished through emails, message boards, and chat rooms. Were they pleased with product, service, quality, etc.
jackri
Active Member
I got a batch of LR from swf.com and very happy with it and the price. I ordered some from another place and was happy too.
I've seen stuff from well a box store --- was basically non-porous heavy rock -- EXACTLY what you don't want. Could just as well put in a bowling ball in my tank.. just as heavy and dense but at least would have 3 pores
I've seen stuff from well a box store --- was basically non-porous heavy rock -- EXACTLY what you don't want. Could just as well put in a bowling ball in my tank.. just as heavy and dense but at least would have 3 pores
james2042
Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2928144
Origin:
Fiji
Colors:
Pink, Purple, Red
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
Origin:
Indonesia, South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Origin:
Tonga
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
As you can see there is really not a lot of difference in the major choices of live rock. What you want to consider is this
Whenever possible it is best to purchase live rock from a local fish store or wholesaler, because most have live rock in stock that is cured and ready to go, and you can physically see it before buying. Here are some buying points on what to look for and questions you should ask:
Tips For Buying Live Rock From A Local Fish Store
·If you are not able to have a separate set up for curing fresh live rock, buy it cured.
·Don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·Inspect the rock visually, as well as smell it. If any growth on it appears to be dying off or any detection of a foul odor is present, it is wise not to buy it, as it is probably still curing and may present you with problems you don't need.
·Inspect the live rock for any unwanted pests or hitchhikers, such as bristle worms and aiptasia anemones.
·How long have they been curing the live rock in their system? What geographic location did the rock come from? (i.e. Indo-Pacific, Caribbean, etc.?)
·What supplemental additives have they been using in their system, if any, while curing the live rock?
·If you run across "must have rock" that may not be ready, understand that and accept the responsibility and possible consequences of complications that may arise if you choose to buy it.
Tips For Buying Live Rock From An Online Supplier
·Exactly what kind of live rock will you be receiving? You'll find live rock labeled with names like cured, seeded, precured, fully cured and cycled, which usually means it can be placed directly into a main aquarium with minimal concern, but only under certain Guidelines. Names like uncured, fresh and transshipped usually means that it is live rock that should not be placed directly into a main aquarium, and you should fully cure it first.
·What type of live rock will you be receiving? Some types are denser (heavier) than others and much less porous, and some will have ample live growth on them, while others may have minimal growth.
·Once again, don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·How does the supplier pack their live rock for shipping?
·How does the supplier ship their live rock? Remember, transit time is one of the most important points. The longer the transit time, die off levels increase.
·Where is the supplier physically located? Choosing a mail order store that is relatively close to your geographic location can cut down on transit time.
·Does the supplier have a guarantee? Does it protect you against possible complications that may arise from shipping, i.e. lost, delayed, or damaged orders?
·If you have never done business with a particular mail order supplier before, get input from other aquarists if they have. This can be accomplished through emails, message boards, and chat rooms. Were they pleased with product, service, quality, etc.
I thought bristle worms are good for your tank
http:///forum/post/2928144
Origin:
Fiji
Colors:
Pink, Purple, Red
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
Origin:
Indonesia, South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Origin:
Tonga
Colors:
Green, Pink, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
Origin
South Pacific
Colors:
Green, Purple, Red, Yellow
Tank Conditions:
72-78°F
sg 1.023-1.025
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
Supplements:
Calcium, Iodine, Strontium, Trace Elements
pH 8.1-8.4
dKH 8-12
As you can see there is really not a lot of difference in the major choices of live rock. What you want to consider is this
Whenever possible it is best to purchase live rock from a local fish store or wholesaler, because most have live rock in stock that is cured and ready to go, and you can physically see it before buying. Here are some buying points on what to look for and questions you should ask:
Tips For Buying Live Rock From A Local Fish Store
·If you are not able to have a separate set up for curing fresh live rock, buy it cured.
·Don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·Inspect the rock visually, as well as smell it. If any growth on it appears to be dying off or any detection of a foul odor is present, it is wise not to buy it, as it is probably still curing and may present you with problems you don't need.
·Inspect the live rock for any unwanted pests or hitchhikers, such as bristle worms and aiptasia anemones.
·How long have they been curing the live rock in their system? What geographic location did the rock come from? (i.e. Indo-Pacific, Caribbean, etc.?)
·What supplemental additives have they been using in their system, if any, while curing the live rock?
·If you run across "must have rock" that may not be ready, understand that and accept the responsibility and possible consequences of complications that may arise if you choose to buy it.
Tips For Buying Live Rock From An Online Supplier
·Exactly what kind of live rock will you be receiving? You'll find live rock labeled with names like cured, seeded, precured, fully cured and cycled, which usually means it can be placed directly into a main aquarium with minimal concern, but only under certain Guidelines. Names like uncured, fresh and transshipped usually means that it is live rock that should not be placed directly into a main aquarium, and you should fully cure it first.
·What type of live rock will you be receiving? Some types are denser (heavier) than others and much less porous, and some will have ample live growth on them, while others may have minimal growth.
·Once again, don't allow yourself to be talked into purchasing mass quantities that you cannot handle. Only buy what you really need, and remember, don't overload your system.
·How does the supplier pack their live rock for shipping?
·How does the supplier ship their live rock? Remember, transit time is one of the most important points. The longer the transit time, die off levels increase.
·Where is the supplier physically located? Choosing a mail order store that is relatively close to your geographic location can cut down on transit time.
·Does the supplier have a guarantee? Does it protect you against possible complications that may arise from shipping, i.e. lost, delayed, or damaged orders?
·If you have never done business with a particular mail order supplier before, get input from other aquarists if they have. This can be accomplished through emails, message boards, and chat rooms. Were they pleased with product, service, quality, etc.
I thought bristle worms are good for your tank
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by james2042
http:///forum/post/2928148
I thought bristle worms are good for your tank
They are but you do not want to be over run with them. You will introduce them into your tank no matter what so IMO its better to keep the initial number down
http:///forum/post/2928148
I thought bristle worms are good for your tank
They are but you do not want to be over run with them. You will introduce them into your tank no matter what so IMO its better to keep the initial number down
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by james2042
http:///forum/post/2928148
I thought bristle worms are good for your tank
Of course as educated hobbyists (which I am sure your are one) we must be able to distinguish the good bristle worms from the bad. We would certainly not want to introduce the Hermodice carunculata
(Bearded Fire worm) into our tanks if we keep corals knowing that
Fire worms are voracious predators that feed on soft and hard corals, anemones, and small crustaceans. It will engulf the last few centimeters of the tip of a branching coral, such as Acropora cervicornis (staghorn coral), in its inflated pharynx and remove the coral tissue from that portion of the skeleton. The worm will remain 5-10 minutes at each branch tip, visiting several, and the branches attacked are apparent by their white ends.
The effects of predation on certain groups can be substantial. Witman (1988) calculated that tissue predation by this worm on Milleporid Hydrocorals (fire coral) exposed 12.9 cm2 per 1 m2 per day of skeleton to algal colonization.
http:///forum/post/2928148
I thought bristle worms are good for your tank
Of course as educated hobbyists (which I am sure your are one) we must be able to distinguish the good bristle worms from the bad. We would certainly not want to introduce the Hermodice carunculata
(Bearded Fire worm) into our tanks if we keep corals knowing that
Fire worms are voracious predators that feed on soft and hard corals, anemones, and small crustaceans. It will engulf the last few centimeters of the tip of a branching coral, such as Acropora cervicornis (staghorn coral), in its inflated pharynx and remove the coral tissue from that portion of the skeleton. The worm will remain 5-10 minutes at each branch tip, visiting several, and the branches attacked are apparent by their white ends.
The effects of predation on certain groups can be substantial. Witman (1988) calculated that tissue predation by this worm on Milleporid Hydrocorals (fire coral) exposed 12.9 cm2 per 1 m2 per day of skeleton to algal colonization.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2928217
YIKES, Acropora sucking fire worms. Whoda thunk!
Henry you would be surprised at how many things in this hobby suck
http:///forum/post/2928217
YIKES, Acropora sucking fire worms. Whoda thunk!
Henry you would be surprised at how many things in this hobby suck
james2042
Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2928185
They are but you do not want to be over run with them. You will introduce them into your tank no matter what so IMO its better to keep the initial number down
Gotcha....
http:///forum/post/2928185
They are but you do not want to be over run with them. You will introduce them into your tank no matter what so IMO its better to keep the initial number down
Gotcha....