Camera Lens Question...
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05xrunner
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Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2657616
If you have a canon I would go with the Canon Telephoto EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Autofocus it is the same price, has a closer minimum focusing distance, and is built a little better.
Just cause you have a Canon doesnt mean you need their lenses.
The Canon is atleast $100 more, Focus distance will be just about the same as both do 1:1 representation so actully I rather have further focus distance to get 1:1 so it doesnt scare off bugs if I am shooting them, AF doesnt mean crap because macro is usually done with manual focus 90% of the time, The tamron build is just fine. Also they all have great IQ but its been said many times the tamron 90 might have the best IQ of them all.
http://sigma4less.com/tamron-telepho...imported-.html
http:///forum/post/2657616
If you have a canon I would go with the Canon Telephoto EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Autofocus it is the same price, has a closer minimum focusing distance, and is built a little better.
Just cause you have a Canon doesnt mean you need their lenses.
The Canon is atleast $100 more, Focus distance will be just about the same as both do 1:1 representation so actully I rather have further focus distance to get 1:1 so it doesnt scare off bugs if I am shooting them, AF doesnt mean crap because macro is usually done with manual focus 90% of the time, The tamron build is just fine. Also they all have great IQ but its been said many times the tamron 90 might have the best IQ of them all.
http://sigma4less.com/tamron-telepho...imported-.html
natclanwy
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That price is for an imported grey market lens that does not have any kind of warranty from tamaron which may or may not be important but needs to be stated. If you get the USA version the price is pretty much the same. I based my opinion on reviews that I have read on the tamaron, I didn't say the tamaron wasn't a good lens but at an equal price I prefer canon lenses, I have sat through a couple of classes that compared the internals manufacturing of canon lenses vs the compitition granted the class was put on by a canon sales rep but they were pretty convincing. Still doesn't mean I won't buy anything that isn't canon I own a couple tamaron lenses in addition to my canon lenses most of the issues they addressed probably won't be an issue for the consumer anyway.
As far as better IQ, I have heard that but the comparison pictures were very difficult to see the differences also probably not much of an issue on a crop body, I also prefer the internal focusing and for aquarium pics I prefer having the closer minimum focusing distance. My recomendation was not entirely based on it being a canon there were some features that I prefer over the tamaron. Both lenses are very sharp and I did just run across a $90 mail in rebate for the Tamaron USA model if you purchase before 7/31/08. Are the features on the canon worth an extra $100? Depends on the user.
As far as better IQ, I have heard that but the comparison pictures were very difficult to see the differences also probably not much of an issue on a crop body, I also prefer the internal focusing and for aquarium pics I prefer having the closer minimum focusing distance. My recomendation was not entirely based on it being a canon there were some features that I prefer over the tamaron. Both lenses are very sharp and I did just run across a $90 mail in rebate for the Tamaron USA model if you purchase before 7/31/08. Are the features on the canon worth an extra $100? Depends on the user.
05xrunner
Active Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2657782
I have sat through a couple of classes that compared the internals manufacturing of canon lenses vs the compitition granted the class was put on by a canon sales rep but they were pretty convincing.
Gee wonder why they made canon sound like they where better. Sales reps are like car dealers little scum bags who try to make their stuff sound the best. Not saying the Canon 100 isnt good. But to believe those guys who 90% of the time dont really know much more about the product then whats written on the box.
http:///forum/post/2657782
I have sat through a couple of classes that compared the internals manufacturing of canon lenses vs the compitition granted the class was put on by a canon sales rep but they were pretty convincing.
Gee wonder why they made canon sound like they where better. Sales reps are like car dealers little scum bags who try to make their stuff sound the best. Not saying the Canon 100 isnt good. But to believe those guys who 90% of the time dont really know much more about the product then whats written on the box.
natclanwy
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Originally Posted by 05xrunner
http:///forum/post/2657819
Gee wonder why they made canon sound like they where better. Sales reps are like car dealers little scum bags who try to make their stuff sound the best. Not saying the Canon 100 isnt good. But to believe those guys who 90% of the time dont really know much more about the product then whats written on the box.
Guess you had to be there, this wasn't a sales pitch we were already a canon dealer and the sales reps were accompanied by one of the engineers who works with the assembly process. This was more of a training seminar so that we would know more about what we were selling and like I stated earlier I took there comments with a grain of salt because they were promoting there own product but to hate canon just because they are canon is not right if you have valid argument for your case I would like to hear it in a PM another thread though as this is way to far off topic for the OP.
http:///forum/post/2657819
Gee wonder why they made canon sound like they where better. Sales reps are like car dealers little scum bags who try to make their stuff sound the best. Not saying the Canon 100 isnt good. But to believe those guys who 90% of the time dont really know much more about the product then whats written on the box.
Guess you had to be there, this wasn't a sales pitch we were already a canon dealer and the sales reps were accompanied by one of the engineers who works with the assembly process. This was more of a training seminar so that we would know more about what we were selling and like I stated earlier I took there comments with a grain of salt because they were promoting there own product but to hate canon just because they are canon is not right if you have valid argument for your case I would like to hear it in a PM another thread though as this is way to far off topic for the OP.
natclanwy
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My apologies for getting off topic
Yes a macro lens in the 90-100mm range will work fine. Any true macro will work fine the spec you are looking for is the 1:1 magnifacation lots of third party lenses are listed as macro lenses but really aren't true macros. The Sigma, Canon, and the Tamaron all will produce great pics the differences between the three is minimal at best. Price aside from the reviews that I have read that compared the three lenses the favorite was the Canon followed by the Tamaron and the Sigma. If you can get the Tamaron for $100 less than the Canon then the Tamaron probably comes out on top if you don't mind losing the minimum working Distance and the internal focusing.
Yes a macro lens in the 90-100mm range will work fine. Any true macro will work fine the spec you are looking for is the 1:1 magnifacation lots of third party lenses are listed as macro lenses but really aren't true macros. The Sigma, Canon, and the Tamaron all will produce great pics the differences between the three is minimal at best. Price aside from the reviews that I have read that compared the three lenses the favorite was the Canon followed by the Tamaron and the Sigma. If you can get the Tamaron for $100 less than the Canon then the Tamaron probably comes out on top if you don't mind losing the minimum working Distance and the internal focusing.
rs1831
Active Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2658635
My apologies for getting off topic
Yes a macro lens in the 90-100mm range will work fine. Any true macro will work fine the spec you are looking for is the 1:1 magnifacation lots of third party lenses are listed as macro lenses but really aren't true macros. The Sigma, Canon, and the Tamaron all will produce great pics the differences between the three is minimal at best. Price aside from the reviews that I have read that compared the three lenses the favorite was the Canon followed by the Tamaron and the Sigma. If you can get the Tamaron for $100 less than the Canon then the Tamaron probably comes out on top if you don't mind losing the minimum working difference and the internal focusing.
Thanks for you help. I'm going to look around and see what the best deal is between the 3 lens. I can't wait to get one. Right now the only lens that I have is the 24-70mm f2.8 IS.
http:///forum/post/2658635
My apologies for getting off topic
Yes a macro lens in the 90-100mm range will work fine. Any true macro will work fine the spec you are looking for is the 1:1 magnifacation lots of third party lenses are listed as macro lenses but really aren't true macros. The Sigma, Canon, and the Tamaron all will produce great pics the differences between the three is minimal at best. Price aside from the reviews that I have read that compared the three lenses the favorite was the Canon followed by the Tamaron and the Sigma. If you can get the Tamaron for $100 less than the Canon then the Tamaron probably comes out on top if you don't mind losing the minimum working difference and the internal focusing.
Thanks for you help. I'm going to look around and see what the best deal is between the 3 lens. I can't wait to get one. Right now the only lens that I have is the 24-70mm f2.8 IS.
tangwhispr
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I have a Sigma Macro for my Nikon D300, its junk...I'll never buy another non-nikon, get some extension tubes if you want to shoot better...also if you are shooting in full program mode they won't be as good, I shoot in aperture priority mode, and 2.8
natclanwy
Active Member
Originally Posted by NPage
http:///forum/post/2658890
Sorry for butting in...
Any disadvantages to getting a Macro lens with a zoom feature?
Is it still a true Macro?
I am look at a Sigma Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DG Macro IF Autofocus Lens for Canon EOS.
Thanks
They are not true macro lenses I don't know of a true macro with a zoom function. I don't know much about that particular lens try looking up some reviews, I do know that the autofocus is slow and tends to hunt but that is true of many 3rd party lenses not sure how bad it really is. I know my tamaron drives me crazy because I am spoiled with my Canon L series lenses but it is workable I usually end up turning the AF off and using manual when I use my tamaron.
http:///forum/post/2658890
Sorry for butting in...
Any disadvantages to getting a Macro lens with a zoom feature?
Is it still a true Macro?
I am look at a Sigma Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DG Macro IF Autofocus Lens for Canon EOS.
Thanks
They are not true macro lenses I don't know of a true macro with a zoom function. I don't know much about that particular lens try looking up some reviews, I do know that the autofocus is slow and tends to hunt but that is true of many 3rd party lenses not sure how bad it really is. I know my tamaron drives me crazy because I am spoiled with my Canon L series lenses but it is workable I usually end up turning the AF off and using manual when I use my tamaron.
codylowe
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Read this article - http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...ns-Review.aspx
codylowe
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I have had pretty good luck with the Auto-Focus on the Sigma. It is a little noisy, but i haven't had to do a manual focus yet. If it won't focus/has trouble focusing, i just adjust the camera front/back a couple of inches and try again. I am happy with it so far. I wanted to go with the Canon 100mm, but after the reading the reviews and the >$100 price difference I settled with the Sigma. Again, I am really happy with it so far.
05xrunner
Active Member
Originally Posted by TangWhispr
http:///forum/post/2658958
I have a Sigma Macro for my Nikon D300, its junk...I'll never buy another non-nikon, get some extension tubes if you want to shoot better...also if you are shooting in full program mode they won't be as good, I shoot in aperture priority mode, and 2.8
I am gonna just say to this...WHAT?
Extension tubes will not give you the same..its a cheap way but not as good, what is junk about it. Obvisouly the reason your shots are junk if you shoot macro at 2.8 your DOF will be sooo shallow the whole image will look blurry. Macro shooting should be in the fstop range of f8-f11. Sounds like you need to learn what your doing more.
http:///forum/post/2658958
I have a Sigma Macro for my Nikon D300, its junk...I'll never buy another non-nikon, get some extension tubes if you want to shoot better...also if you are shooting in full program mode they won't be as good, I shoot in aperture priority mode, and 2.8
I am gonna just say to this...WHAT?
Extension tubes will not give you the same..its a cheap way but not as good, what is junk about it. Obvisouly the reason your shots are junk if you shoot macro at 2.8 your DOF will be sooo shallow the whole image will look blurry. Macro shooting should be in the fstop range of f8-f11. Sounds like you need to learn what your doing more.
05xrunner
Active Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2659005
They are not true macro lenses I don't know of a true macro with a zoom function. I don't know much about that particular lens try looking up some reviews, I do know that the autofocus is slow and tends to hunt but that is true of many 3rd party lenses not sure how bad it really is. I know my tamaron drives me crazy because I am spoiled with my Canon L series lenses but it is workable I usually end up turning the AF off and using manual when I use my tamaron.
Why give that advice. That is just wrong. Canon and nikon make some slow ass lenses as well that do not have their USM or AF-s motors in them. Just like Sigma lenses that do not have the HSM motors are not as fast. Their HSM focus motors are just as fast as a Canon USM or nikon AF-s..This really bugs the hell outta me when people make such generalized statements and give wrong information.
natclanwy
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Originally Posted by 05xrunner
http:///forum/post/2659114
Why give that advice. That is just wrong. Canon and nikon make some slow ass lenses as well that do not have their USM or AF-s motors in them. Just like Sigma lenses that do not have the HSM motors are not as fast. Their HSM focus motors are just as fast as a Canon USM or nikon AF-s..This really bugs the hell outta me when people make such generalized statements and give wrong information.
You seem to be the know all end all on photography and I seem to be infringing on your territory so I will back off.
http:///forum/post/2659114
Why give that advice. That is just wrong. Canon and nikon make some slow ass lenses as well that do not have their USM or AF-s motors in them. Just like Sigma lenses that do not have the HSM motors are not as fast. Their HSM focus motors are just as fast as a Canon USM or nikon AF-s..This really bugs the hell outta me when people make such generalized statements and give wrong information.
You seem to be the know all end all on photography and I seem to be infringing on your territory so I will back off.