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garychef1
Guest
well?
old_salt
Member
Just include a few crabs, a couple peppermint shrimp and possibly even a slow feeding fish (I had a small maroon clown with mine before I moved them into a 29g bio cube). Just don't leave any food lying around after they finish eating. One of the LFSs has a pair in a 14g bio cube and they have been there for about 6 months.
cherish life.
Member
if you dont like what they say...then just say ok.
shes giving you her opinion, because YOU asked for it...
if your not going to accept her answer then dont ask the question
not trying to bash....just try being more polite
shes giving you her opinion, because YOU asked for it...
if your not going to accept her answer then dont ask the question
not trying to bash....just try being more polite
rykna
Active Member
No Prob
It's a free world. When asking a question, I try to look at it this way~ it's like a person handing you a box...when a person passes the "box"/question~ the box is no longer in your control~ when the receiver opens the box they can react/respond and decide what to do with the contents of the box...what you do with their response is up to you
So no worries
So no worries
rykna
Active Member
Originally Posted by Old_Salt
Just include a few crabs, a couple peppermint shrimp and possibly even a slow feeding fish (I had a small maroon clown with mine before I moved them into a 29g bio cube). Just don't leave any food lying around after they finish eating. One of the LFSs has a pair in a 14g bio cube and they have been there for about 6 months.
What did you use to syphon you nano cube? I'm having a heck of a time trying to clean my 15 gallon dwarf seahorse tank with out sucking the little guys up too.
Just include a few crabs, a couple peppermint shrimp and possibly even a slow feeding fish (I had a small maroon clown with mine before I moved them into a 29g bio cube). Just don't leave any food lying around after they finish eating. One of the LFSs has a pair in a 14g bio cube and they have been there for about 6 months.
What did you use to syphon you nano cube? I'm having a heck of a time trying to clean my 15 gallon dwarf seahorse tank with out sucking the little guys up too.
old_salt
Member
Originally Posted by Rykna
What did you use to syphon you nano cube? I'm having a heck of a time trying to clean my 15 gallon dwarf seahorse tank with out sucking the little guys up too.
I put a piece of plastic window screen over the end of the syphoning tube to keep from sucking up shrimp and pods. Just hold it on with a rubber band. Hope this helps.
What did you use to syphon you nano cube? I'm having a heck of a time trying to clean my 15 gallon dwarf seahorse tank with out sucking the little guys up too.
I put a piece of plastic window screen over the end of the syphoning tube to keep from sucking up shrimp and pods. Just hold it on with a rubber band. Hope this helps.
old_salt
Member
Originally Posted by Cherish life.
if you dont like what they say...then just say ok.
shes giving you her opinion, because YOU asked for it...
if your not going to accept her answer then dont ask the question
not trying to bash....just try being more polite
This is somewhat confusing, who are you talking to? I ask a question after a comment as I would like to know why I should move my sea horses from one of these type tanks. Not trying to be rude, just looking for additional information. Apologize if I sounded rude.
if you dont like what they say...then just say ok.
shes giving you her opinion, because YOU asked for it...
if your not going to accept her answer then dont ask the question
not trying to bash....just try being more polite
This is somewhat confusing, who are you talking to? I ask a question after a comment as I would like to know why I should move my sea horses from one of these type tanks. Not trying to be rude, just looking for additional information. Apologize if I sounded rude.
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garychef1
Guest
here is my stock list:
2 tru percs
1 skunk shrimp
1 harlequin shrimp
maybe 3 sexy shrimp
1 seahorse
5 hermits
8 nass snails
various corals6 lbs of LR
1 inch of LS
u can probably tell i love shrimp.
if a seahorse is suitable for this environment then can someone tell me a suitasble species? thanks for everyone's help.
2 tru percs
1 skunk shrimp
1 harlequin shrimp
maybe 3 sexy shrimp
1 seahorse
5 hermits
8 nass snails
various corals6 lbs of LR
1 inch of LS
u can probably tell i love shrimp.
if a seahorse is suitable for this environment then can someone tell me a suitasble species? thanks for everyone's help.
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garychef1
Guest
Originally Posted by Old_Salt
Just include a few crabs, a couple peppermint shrimp and possibly even a slow feeding fish (I had a small maroon clown with mine before I moved them into a 29g bio cube). Just don't leave any food lying around after they finish eating. One of the LFSs has a pair in a 14g bio cube and they have been there for about 6 months.
why shouldn't i leave any food i after feeding?
Just include a few crabs, a couple peppermint shrimp and possibly even a slow feeding fish (I had a small maroon clown with mine before I moved them into a 29g bio cube). Just don't leave any food lying around after they finish eating. One of the LFSs has a pair in a 14g bio cube and they have been there for about 6 months.
why shouldn't i leave any food i after feeding?
rykna
Active Member
Originally Posted by Garychef1
why shouldn't i leave any food i after feeding?
Well, you've walked past the neighbor hood garbage dump before right?
Imagine all that stuffed into a 90 gallon tank, or even worse a 14 gallon. That is why I haven't kept and saltwater tanks smaller that 45 gallons, until now. I have 12 dwarf seahorses in my 15 gallon. Every day I feed them 200 or so baby brine shrimp. So it only takes a day or two before the ponies are swimming in unsavory conditions.
The "clean up crew"~ i.e. the healthy bacteria that cleans up all the left overs, is so small in a 15 gallon that it cannot handle the work load. If you do not clean up the left overs you'll end up with nitrate,nitrite, and ammonia levels of the scale. I did this just 3 days ago with the pony tank. I use the food enhancer that was more potent. The vitamin enhancer needs to be rinsed off before adding it to the pony tank, so you avoid adding extra nutrients for the algae and other unwanted contaminants. I completely spaced this step.
I only added a half cup of baby brine soup to the 15 gallon, aproximately 20 minutes latter I remebered I had forgotten to rinse the enhancer off. I checked the water levels ASAP! In those 20 minutes the water went from
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
to~
Nitrate: 80
Nitrite: 5.0
Left unattended the ponies would have been dead with in the hour.
why shouldn't i leave any food i after feeding?
Well, you've walked past the neighbor hood garbage dump before right?
Imagine all that stuffed into a 90 gallon tank, or even worse a 14 gallon. That is why I haven't kept and saltwater tanks smaller that 45 gallons, until now. I have 12 dwarf seahorses in my 15 gallon. Every day I feed them 200 or so baby brine shrimp. So it only takes a day or two before the ponies are swimming in unsavory conditions.
The "clean up crew"~ i.e. the healthy bacteria that cleans up all the left overs, is so small in a 15 gallon that it cannot handle the work load. If you do not clean up the left overs you'll end up with nitrate,nitrite, and ammonia levels of the scale. I did this just 3 days ago with the pony tank. I use the food enhancer that was more potent. The vitamin enhancer needs to be rinsed off before adding it to the pony tank, so you avoid adding extra nutrients for the algae and other unwanted contaminants. I completely spaced this step.
I only added a half cup of baby brine soup to the 15 gallon, aproximately 20 minutes latter I remebered I had forgotten to rinse the enhancer off. I checked the water levels ASAP! In those 20 minutes the water went from
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
to~
Nitrate: 80
Nitrite: 5.0
Left unattended the ponies would have been dead with in the hour.
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garychef1
Guest
well, if you have 12 0f them in a 15 gallon then why would it be a problem if i have 1 in a 14 gallon?
darthtang aw
Active Member
Sure you can do it....Hell you can put a shark in a fifteen gallon tank if you want. But to make keeping for an extended period of time I would recommend against unless you have had horses before. Sure you can keep a pair in a 15 gallon. Expect to change water WEEKLY. Monitor readings every other day...if not daily. Feed and clean out any excess food to prevent causing minicycles.....
But to answer your question. Yes you can.
The true question should be, is it wise to keep a pair of (regular size) seahorse in a 12 gallon?
Rykna gets a pass on this as hers are dwarf seahorses...which if you have never even kept seahorses before you should not attempt.
But to answer your question. Yes you can.
The true question should be, is it wise to keep a pair of (regular size) seahorse in a 12 gallon?
Rykna gets a pass on this as hers are dwarf seahorses...which if you have never even kept seahorses before you should not attempt.
rykna
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
The true question should be, is it wise to keep a pair of (regular size) seahorse in a 12 gallon?
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This is very true. I have worked at various pet stores in which the customers over look the basic habit that their new pet needs.(Not that that is your intention Garychef1)
Seahorses are also social animals, just as horses run in herds. They do tons better with a friend. Seahorses are by far the coolest fish out there, unless they figure out how to miniaturize great white sharks
I only caution in using a nano cube for your fist seahorse tank. I thought I had done all the research and preparation that I needed to do when I purchased my 2 Kuda male seahorses for my 90 gallon tank. I was quickly proven wrong. I lost the second horse do to stress and malnutrition, and Valiant, my favorite was taken after a very long fight against a worm parasite.
Darth was extremely helpful, along with the rest of the support from the forum...
In the end after doing a whole more much of researching and help from Darth, and others...I realized my main mistake was water quality. More than any other fish, seahorses need perfection when it comes to water quality.
The parasites that claimed Valiant, appeared in the tank when the environment changed. My salinity was 1.026...the extra nutruients in the water....all a recipe for disaster...I had just finish 4 years of having a reef tank...so these levels did not bother me at all at the time....
Seahorse differ in many areas. Their number one difference is that they have no stomach. Their digestive tract is one long intestine. That is one big factor why the water in the horse tank gets dirty much faster. Secondly, because they have no stomach it is extremely important to make sure to keep track of their food intake, and what you enhance the food with.
I have to do water changes on my 15 gallon for the dwarf seahorse tank at least every 3 days. I also monitor the tank daily. You should check up on Monalia's kuda tank. I think she has a really good tank maintenance plan going on.
I would love to help you set up a horse tank, but if this your first seahorse tank, I'd recommend keeping your favorite shrimp in the nano.
Look forward to hearing more ideas for you horse tank
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garychef1
Guest
wow guys great help. i think i will opt against getting some sehorses for a while.
rykna
Active Member
Originally Posted by Garychef1
wow guys great help. i think i will opt against getting some sehorses for a while.
Well, once you've gotten your feet wet and are ready, I'm sure we'll still be "swimming" around here somewhere
I would still like to know what you decide on. Always look forward to seeing new tanks.
Rykna
wow guys great help. i think i will opt against getting some sehorses for a while.
Well, once you've gotten your feet wet and are ready, I'm sure we'll still be "swimming" around here somewhere
I would still like to know what you decide on. Always look forward to seeing new tanks.
Rykna
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lbaskball
Guest
Originally Posted by Rykna
Well, once you've gotten your feet wet and are ready, I'm sure we'll still be "swimming" around here somewhere
I would still like to know what you decide on. Always look forward to seeing new tanks.
Rykna
Hey rykna, how do you feed your dwarf seahorses since they are so small? Also, I just got a sea horses. I don't know what kind it is. I suspect it is from australia because it has antennas/leafs like things on him. He is eating frozen mini mysis made by h2o. And he eats a lot. At least 4 or 5 mini mysises. Any advice you can give me? Do they change color? Mine was blackand had silver dots on it with red highlights around his spikes. Now it has no longer have the red highlights to it.
Well, once you've gotten your feet wet and are ready, I'm sure we'll still be "swimming" around here somewhere
I would still like to know what you decide on. Always look forward to seeing new tanks.
Rykna
Hey rykna, how do you feed your dwarf seahorses since they are so small? Also, I just got a sea horses. I don't know what kind it is. I suspect it is from australia because it has antennas/leafs like things on him. He is eating frozen mini mysis made by h2o. And he eats a lot. At least 4 or 5 mini mysises. Any advice you can give me? Do they change color? Mine was blackand had silver dots on it with red highlights around his spikes. Now it has no longer have the red highlights to it.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Odds are lossing the red highlights is a bad sign some seahorses are subtropical temperture dwellers. Post a pic of yours so we can figure out very quickly what species it is. It may not be suitable for the environment you are providing.