Can saltwater fish live in a lower salinity 1009??
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scubadoo
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Originally Posted by nimo1969
My LFS is trying this ??? what do you thing ?? salt 1009 no ick ???
Nimo1969 :notsure: :notsure: :notsure:
Yes & no..some forms of ich have been discovered thriving in even lower salnities. Do a google search and you will find it. I beleive it was in Advanced Aquarist Magazine...you can find it on-line...it was 6 or 8 part series on Ich a couple years ago.
My LFS is trying this ??? what do you thing ?? salt 1009 no ick ???
Nimo1969 :notsure: :notsure: :notsure:
Yes & no..some forms of ich have been discovered thriving in even lower salnities. Do a google search and you will find it. I beleive it was in Advanced Aquarist Magazine...you can find it on-line...it was 6 or 8 part series on Ich a couple years ago.
lion_crazz
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Fish will not live in 1.009 for very long. Their immune system will become weak and it is doubtful that they would live in this for the three weeks that is necessary in order to kill the ich.
fishieness
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i have heard of instances where they have, but i have never heard of someone doing it for a very long time..... The differences in density will hurt them eventualy. animal cells are 70% water. a fish in saltwater is going to have a lower concentration of water in a cell than the fish in fresh water because of osmosis. this keeps the cells at equalibrium (so to speak cause water is constantly passing through their cells). But it keeps the cells from expanding or shrinking. By putting a fish in water that is less dence, you are changing their entire body structure. not a good thing to do IMO.
nicetry
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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Fish will not live in 1.009 for very long. Their immune system will become weak and it is doubtful that they would live in this for the three weeks that is necessary in order to kill the ich.
This is inaccurate. Studies have been done on various reef fish and many adapt well to extended periods of hyposalinity. Some have been kept at SG's as low as 1.010 for 2-3 months with no ill effects. A study of Emperor angels was conducted and they were maintained at a salinity of 7 ppt (lower than suggested hyposalinity levels) for 30 days and they had no problems. This is not to say it is a good practice, but for the purpose of parasite control, bony fish can tolerate prolonged hyposaline conditions.
Fish will not live in 1.009 for very long. Their immune system will become weak and it is doubtful that they would live in this for the three weeks that is necessary in order to kill the ich.
This is inaccurate. Studies have been done on various reef fish and many adapt well to extended periods of hyposalinity. Some have been kept at SG's as low as 1.010 for 2-3 months with no ill effects. A study of Emperor angels was conducted and they were maintained at a salinity of 7 ppt (lower than suggested hyposalinity levels) for 30 days and they had no problems. This is not to say it is a good practice, but for the purpose of parasite control, bony fish can tolerate prolonged hyposaline conditions.
promisetbg
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I kept my blue-spotted puffer in hypo salinity {1.009} for almost two months.It was the only way to cure his ich,being that copper is not an option for puffers.He did splendid!
carshark
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i think that a lot of people that keep their fish at this salinity have a higher success rate if done properly. It is not hard to kill your fish if hypo is not done correctly. Monitoring PH, nitrates, and ammonia seem to be a big problem. I am currently in Hyposalinity on my main display. I introduced ick to my main display when I first starting saltwater. Ive done treatments upon treatments, like "reef safe" medications. those do not work. Ive used Kick Ich, Ich-X, freshwater dips, etc. so instead of treating the fish in a QT, i decided to do it in my main to kill it out of anywhere in my system. I was a newbie and listened to my LFS. well now that I am much more broad in the hobby, Ive found that hyposalinity is the best/safest way to battle ick. I am in my third week and the ick hasnt been present for two. the first week it slowly disappeared and finally completely invisible. My ph took a dive, my nitrates went through the roof, and ammonia went up to .25 it was dangerous, because I didnt know how to do it properly. If you monitor your levels constantly, and take the salinity down slow, there shouldnt be any major difficulties in this process. Fish can survive in these conditions for very extended periods of time, without casualty. If you keep your system stable, and watch for die off, you will be fine.
this may have been a little off topic but needed to be said. There are people who are considering hyposalinity reading this...it needed to be stated.
this may have been a little off topic but needed to be said. There are people who are considering hyposalinity reading this...it needed to be stated.
scubadoo
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Hyposalnity is good for treating ich but should not be viewed as a long-term situation for keeping fish. keeping fish in low salintity long-term means they do not flush their kidneys sufficiently which CAN cause kidney failure and kill the animal.. Fish constantly drink saltwater in higher salinities. When the salinity is lowered they decease water intake and conserve energy which can make the fish stronger. short-term and kill parasites
Again, treating for ich is okay...keeping fish in hyposlanity condtions for months will most likely lead to death.
Again, treating for ich is okay...keeping fish in hyposlanity condtions for months will most likely lead to death.
carshark
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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Hyposalnity is good for treating ich but should not be viewed as a long-term situation for keeping fish. keeping fish in low salintity long-term means they do not flush their kidneys sufficiently which CAN cause kidney failure and kill the animal.. Fish constantly drink saltwater in higher salinities. When the salinity is lowered they decease water intake and conserve energy which can make the fish stronger. short-term and kill parasites
Again, treating for ich is okay...keeping fish in hyposlanity condtions for months will most likely lead to death.
agreed
Hyposalnity is good for treating ich but should not be viewed as a long-term situation for keeping fish. keeping fish in low salintity long-term means they do not flush their kidneys sufficiently which CAN cause kidney failure and kill the animal.. Fish constantly drink saltwater in higher salinities. When the salinity is lowered they decease water intake and conserve energy which can make the fish stronger. short-term and kill parasites
Again, treating for ich is okay...keeping fish in hyposlanity condtions for months will most likely lead to death.
agreed