carpet anenome eating fish?

colcoral

Member
Hi, I got a carpet anenome about two weeks ago. He looks great. My water parameters are good. My fish are dead - except for my lawmower blenny. I found my angel next to the carpet and one decomposed clown floating, my other clown and tang have disappeared. Anyone else have problems with carpets killing fish.
My tank is established - 7 years at least - my starfish and shrimp are all happy .
 

teen

Active Member
anemones can eat fish, have you been feeding him? what are your parameters like? im sure if the anemone killed the fish, he would eat it, so i doubt the fish that was just floating was from the anemone.
 

dawman

Active Member
Sometimes anemones will spit a big meal back out , so it is possible the floater was eaten at one time .
 

bs21

Member
im pretty sure i have read a couple different carpet anomone horror stories of them devouring fish but two weeks doesn't seem like much time to lose alot of fish
 

maxalmon

Active Member
IMO carpets are best left in a large species tank with a few clowns, every time I've tried to keep one it turn out to be a big and expensive all you can eat buffet....
 

gmford1979

Member
i have a big one, and he hate an anthia. well he ate most of it, then spit the rest back out. left me with a pile of mangled up carcass. pretty nasty actually. i tried to pick it up with my tongs, and it just fell apart. took me a while to clean it up.
 

colcoral

Member
I have been feeding him - my parameters are good. But every fish that has gotten close to him is gone. The one I found fell apart when I tried to get it out of the tank (like he was half digested) meanwhile the carpet is looks healthy and evil.......
 

dawman

Active Member
What size tank do you have it in ? Carpets get pretty big and if in a small tank it will eat anything that comes in reach .
 

dawman

Active Member
75 is small to keep a carpet especially as they grow . I would get a bigger tank to put it in so fish have room to swim without being devoured . Or get another 75 to keep the anemone in with a pair of clowns .
 

david24

Member
Yep I had a scooter blenny and clearner shrimp eaten by my carpet he's now in a special tank with my clarkii clown.
 

maxalmon

Active Member
Figure it this way, if the water quality was bad the carpet would be one of the first inhabitants to show signs of distress...
 

sjimmyh

Member
I should most likely keep my opinions to myself, but thats not why we come here, is it?
I think its a shame that you should loose so many species that we know we can properly care for to a species nobody in the hobby can.
Would you buy a fish that you know eats coral to live and they not give it coral and expect it to survive? At least you knew what the fish needed to survive and chose not to provide it. Anemones obviously need something we aren't able to provide yet. They die. If you can get 5 years from one it is considered a great success... 5 years from a species we know lives for centuries in the wild.
Ever find a book with all the requirements handy to raise a prized anemone? That's because there isn't one. Nobody (yes, nobody) knows how to keep them alive in an aquarium. I would be interested in hearing how many here have had them and what the average life span in a tank is.
I am surely sorry if I am coming accross harshly. I too tried my hand at them when I was younger. I know the allure. I am not so upset at the reef keeper as I am at the fish sales actually telling the consumer that they need this, and this, and that for this anemone (before it dies anyway). As long as we buy them, they will sell them and all the extra stuff you need to prolong their doomed life.
I am not saying someday we won't figure it all out. Most likely we will, but it will be because someone worked very hard (and most likely spent a lot of money, time, and anemones) to treat his/her anemone like an anemone and not a coral.
 

colcoral

Member
The carpet is about 6 inches across now and looks very healthy. I may try to find other accomodations for him so he can be healthy and happy and eat a diet planned for him instead of my fish. He even ate the clowns.
 

sjimmyh

Member
Originally Posted by Colcoral
The carpet is about 6 inches across now and looks very healthy. I may try to find other accomodations for him so he can be healthy and happy and eat a diet planned for him instead of my fish. He even ate the clowns.
Carpets have a very strong sting and gripping ability. I do wish you the best of luck with your anemone, but I feel you will eventually be wondering what you are doing wrong watching him slowly shrink down, expell his pigment and waste away.
Remember this post if you get to this point and do some research from the bigger named individuals in the hobby. I did not come up with this opinion on my own.
 

dawman

Active Member
Originally Posted by SJimmyH
Carpets have a very strong sting and gripping ability. I do wish you the best of luck with your anemone, but I feel you will eventually be wondering what you are doing wrong watching him slowly shrink down, expell his pigment and waste away.
Remember this post if you get to this point and do some research from the bigger named individuals in the hobby. I did not come up with this opinion on my own.

Way to encourage him
 
E

essop3

Guest
Originally Posted by SJimmyH
I should most likely keep my opinions to myself, but thats not why we come here, is it?
I think its a shame that you should loose so many species that we know we can properly care for to a species nobody in the hobby can.
Would you buy a fish that you know eats coral to live and they not give it coral and expect it to survive? At least you knew what the fish needed to survive and chose not to provide it. Anemones obviously need something we aren't able to provide yet. They die. If you can get 5 years from one it is considered a great success... 5 years from a species we know lives for centuries in the wild.
Ever find a book with all the requirements handy to raise a prized anemone? That's because there isn't one. Nobody (yes, nobody) knows how to keep them alive in an aquarium. I would be interested in hearing how many here have had them and what the average life span in a tank is.
I am surely sorry if I am coming accross harshly. I too tried my hand at them when I was younger. I know the allure. I am not so upset at the reef keeper as I am at the fish sales actually telling the consumer that they need this, and this, and that for this anemone (before it dies anyway). As long as we buy them, they will sell them and all the extra stuff you need to prolong their doomed life.
I am not saying someday we won't figure it all out. Most likely we will, but it will be because someone worked very hard (and most likely spent a lot of money, time, and anemones) to treat his/her anemone like an anemone and not a coral.

It's good to express your opinion but you are misinformed. There are many types of anemones. True that many are doomed in our aquariums but not all are. Even the carpet anemones (there are several different ones) in discussion here are commonly kept with sucess. I agree that true success or failure must be graded over the long term and it's hard to do that when the natural life span is so long. With the proper care, knowledge and research the right anemone can be kept in the right tank.
With that being said myself and another experienced member of my local reef club have passed around a Haddoni carpet that was bought by a less experienced member. I knew the requirements and risks and didn't want it. But... I took it because I didn't want to see it die. I gave it away after I grew tired of it eating my fish. I found someone who was willing to dedicate a 90g to just the carpet and it's 2 clowns. The carpet is now in it's 5th year of captivity that I know of. Like I said, it's hard to compare that to it's life span in the wild but it shows a glimpse of what education and the willingness to do it right can accomplish.
 

rabbit_72

Member
We have 2 white sebea anenomes which are rated as difficult to care for and that need high lighting. We used to try to buy bulb anenomes, but they always died...always. So we gave up. What was the point in wastu=ing our money and their lives, right. And they were supposed to be easier to care for. Boy, were we misinformed.
Our white sebeas are doing wonderfully, properly colored and florishing. They are quite easy for us to care for under mediocre lighting. We are still simply amazed at this 2 years later. We had read captive anenomes only live for about a year! We feed them thawed out frozen krill and lots of it. To our knkowledge, they have not eaten any fish.
Our solution was to find what they liked to eat and run with it. However, anenomes are not known to be easy to care for. In this, we have been lucky.
 
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