Clam suggestions please

azrickster25

New Member
Hi I have a 55 gal tankthat is 2years old and i was wondering if i might be able to keep a clam. I have 300 watts of metal halide and 110 watts of pc actinic . What kind of clam could i get and what kind of care do they need?OH yeah do big enough bristle worms kill and eat clams?
 

spanko

Active Member
I would think with what you have said about your tank and it's lighting you would be able to pic just about any Tridacnid you wanted. Be aware that anything smaller than about 3" will need to be fed. Go for something larger than that and they will be okay with just the lights for sustenance. T.deresa on the sandbed, others in the rockwork. Can't answer about the bristle worms, maybe someone else will chime in.
JMO
 

candycane

Active Member
Bristle worms do NOT intentionally kill clams. The byssal threads are constantly decaying and being replaced with new ones. Now bristle worms being decaying organic matter feeders, this is an ideal spot for them. Over time a small population may form under the clam (you will probably see that if you are able to lift the clam without injuring it) and irritate the clam to the point where it does become stressed.
Now with that sized tank, you MIGHT want to aim for a Crocea, Maxima or Squamosa. I have recently changed my opinion on Croceas however, and my thoughts are they should probably be kept out of the hobby all together.
 

candycane

Active Member
Everytime that I look at a croceas "vascular system" or and/or Zooxanthellae Tubular System I am amazed.
I think of it this way.
With most other clams it's like taking a piece of wood and drilling 20 - 1/8 inch holes in it and then submerging it in water (the water being the light). It's obviously going to take less water to fill all of those holes. Now with a Crocea, it would probably be similar to taking the same sized piece of wood and drilling 400 - 1/8 inch holes in it. Much more "water" is going to be needed to fill the holes. Their inherit ability to develope Iridophores (the eyes and false eyes the intensive light requiring Zooxanthellae generate around), is astounding. They will continue to form them, and form them, and form them, and form them, then they MIGHT develope a hyaline structure - which will most of the time "dissolve" for other reasons. It might be a bad example, but it's similar to the way that some plants need MUCH more light then others.
The best way is probably to look at them though. If you look at a Maxima, Squamosa, Derasa, Gigas, whatever it is, look for the bumps or eyes all over the clam; then look at a Crocea. A really hard look needs to be taken at the mantle pretty close (with the bare eye is fine). The difference in these little bumps (between Croceas and the most of the rest of the Tridacnids) or eyes is in the hundreds or thousands most of the time. And I am talking about all of the eyes, no matter what color they are - if they are pin-sized "eyes" or ones up to the regular size of grouped symetrical ones. Croceas tend to look like they almost have an acne problem compared to other clams (more mouths to feed).
I have NEVER seen a Crocea that has been alive 6+ year in a home aquarium in my life. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of the other species though. Which is why (and I am doing a write up on this which is why the other post was pulled), based on what I have seen, Croceas should NOT be kept under T5s and IMNO out of the hobby all together.
 

spanko

Active Member
And you are attributing the death prior to 6 years to the need for "much more light"? And are you postulating that the home aquarist cannot sufficiently provide this amount of lighting?
Please not questioning your reasoning, just trying to understand it first.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by spanko
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And you are attributing the death prior to 6 years to the need for "much more light"? And are you postulating that the home aquarist cannot sufficiently provide this amount of lighting?
Please not questioning your reasoning, just trying to understand it first.
Good question Henry BUT then again the only real experience when it comes to clams you have is when they are in a dish with linguini and a nice garlic,olive oil and parsley souse
 

jimshember

New Member
i dont care what anyone tells you bristle worms killed 2 of my clams i seen it happen . they can climb the side of the tank too. they kill anemones and corals . and sixline wrasse and coral band shrimp dont eat them they run from them ..... i seen it . im speeking from personel experience .$$$$$$$$$
 

saltfan

Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2893450
And you are attributing the death prior to 6 years to the need for "much more light"? And are you postulating that the home aquarist cannot sufficiently provide this amount of lighting?
Please not questioning your reasoning, just trying to understand it first.
BUMP: Hey CandyCane..... Got me worried man.
 
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