Clown nerve wrecking initial behavior

stupid_naso

Member
Ok guys, I need help here. Again, I tried pairing false perculas, Amphiprion ocellaris. When I first tried it about six months ago, they both ended up dead because of starvation and later ich. They, the previous clowns, did not eat and later had this white secretion dangling from their anus. I brought this up before, but still hasn't found an answer of the kind of disease this is.
Well I selected my fish more carefully this time. I made sure they both eat, and respond to me. Basically healthier, I might say. I even acclimated them using the drop method over a period of 20 minutes. I believed as soon as I put them in that they have paired considering their behavior: swimming together and never leaving each other's side.
Well here's the problem. They both ate live brine shrimp in the lfs, and I don't have any. I tried to feed them frozen brine shrimp. The female ate a little. The male, put them in his mouth but immediately spit them out. I thought it was the vitamin that I soaked the brine shrimp with. So this morning, after two days, I thawed a cube of blood worms. They ignored it. Later, however, the male ate lots of them. The female still hasn't eaten anything. And last night, I noticed that she had the dangling white secretion again. Also, another nerve wrecking behavior, they have separated themselves from each other.
Just in case of minor parasite attack I got a cleaner shrimp. But it hasn't touched the female either. I understand that the cleaner shrimp is still new. But last time, it didn't help.
OK, sorry for the long post. But I need to know what this is. I have no other fish in the tank. Mostly corals. Last time I checked water parameter was perfect zeros. Even nitrates, yup I couldn't believe it, but after more than a year I guess my tank has fully matured. Ph 8.2. Salinity is 1.026 sg.
For other info on the tank please refer to the list below.
Thanks,
Aditya aka "stupid_naso"
 

bdhough

Active Member
Ok. Simple enough. Tank raised or from the Ocean.
Ocean clowns i believe all have a stomach parasite and thus why your fish stopped eating (particularly true's and false's). I believe they need to be dewormed and then they should be ok. That is why Tank raised clowns are a bit more expensive. They dont' have the parasite. I think clowns will also eat some spirulina flakes if you want to try those.
 

stupid_naso

Member
Ups forgot to mention, I think it's from the ocean.
The tank raised were so much smaller. So there's no way to pair them.
 

demosthenes

Active Member
Your fish are suffering from Anemonefish disease, which is a ciliated protozoan, that infects the gills and skin of fish. Affected fish may slough the protective skin coating or secrete an increased amount of mucus. They may also become lethargic, exhibit respiratory distress, stop feeding, and display areas of discolored skin. This parasite feeds on the tissue and blood of its host, and causes osmoregulatory distress. It usually becomes apparent when fish are experiencing unusual amounts of stress. The best solution is a Hyposalinity treatment. Follow the procedures in the Disease and Treatment forum.
 

demosthenes

Active Member
You replied at the same time I did, so I didn't have time to read that last response. You state that there's no way to pair the "small" tank-raised ones. They are best paired when they are smaller, as they have not yet matured. All anemonefish begin life as males, and then they can, if needed, become a female for the purpose of reproduction. So, a mated pair is quite easy to come by. Simply place two juveniles in the same tank, and nature will take its course.
 

stupid_naso

Member
Out of all those things that you mentioned, she only displays one of them and that's the secretion part. And it is not there anymore. There's no respiratory distress nor the discolored skin. I read about Brooknella (sp?), but the symptoms didn't match. Is this the only disease it closely resembles?
About the baby clowns, they were aggressive in the lfs. I heard about the early pairing, but affraid that they might kill each other.
 
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