Justindm13
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Yes, the original died almost 3 weeks ago, but on Sat. I bought 2 new ones to give it another go. 1 has died and the other isn't doing well.
Clownfish keep dying
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Justindm13
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Yes. My LFS got a big group of clownfish and they said they haven't had any of them die, it has been a really good group. All the clowns I have gotten are from this same group, just spread over a couple months.
Justindm13
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I don't know if I can do that. I have to figure out what is causing them to die. What was the long shot part?
jay0705
Well-Known Member
That its a supplier issue not you. Alot of times lfs can get really good deals if they buy bulk. I mean $2 per clown when they sell them for $15-20. Problem is if there is something wrong w them all the fish will most likely have it. That said tops are not the best for sw but I doubt that is doing it. Again inverts are much more sensitive to water quality issues than fish
Bryce E
Active Member
It's not the night of the living hydroids taking place here... those things are not killing your fish.
There really seems to be some kind of Illness taking place... Ich will typically be noticeable long before it results in death. Especially in hardy fish like clowns, they will often times survive through multiple cycles of ich if not beat it altogether. But it really sounds like you have some sort of parasite or pathogen in your tank introduced by one of your fish.
Now of course it is not recommended to have a glass top covering your tank and you could be low on oxygen. So remove the top regardless. Unless it's a sump system then you may be fine with keeping it if your sump is not covered and you have really good water flow or you have a big enough of a gap on the lid and it's not 100% covered. If it is an oxygen problem you will probably have seen your fish breathing heavily fairly quickly after introducing them and never stop until they died
The white spots u mentioned sure sound like ich but keep in mind there can be a presence of ich and fish may not even contract it simply due to being healthy and having a good slime coat... and if all of your fish aren't breaking out in white spots and they're still dying you probably have something else going on that reduced the fish's immune system and made them more susceptible to ich so you just happened to see that sprout up as well.
But I'd say that you are not likely just buying all, already sick fish, unless all of them were together already in the same tank and being subjected to whatever disease is likely taking place here.. That being said if the LFS's same batch aren't dying but as soon as you put them in your tank there are problems then the disease is probably in YOUR tank now and by adding new fish, healthy or sick whatever... you are providing a new host to keep it going. Typically diseases don't affect fish and inverts the same so your inverts should be fine to leave in there but you need to keep your tank fishless for a period of at least 6 weeks. Regardless of what disease or parasite you may be encountering here Beth's advice is going to be the best to get rid of whatever's in there. Sucks.. you probably don't want to do that because you want stuff in your tank but it's really better to be safe than sorry. Don't let it deter you or get you down... just take the necessary measures to get rid of it then start adding live stock again.
There really seems to be some kind of Illness taking place... Ich will typically be noticeable long before it results in death. Especially in hardy fish like clowns, they will often times survive through multiple cycles of ich if not beat it altogether. But it really sounds like you have some sort of parasite or pathogen in your tank introduced by one of your fish.
Now of course it is not recommended to have a glass top covering your tank and you could be low on oxygen. So remove the top regardless. Unless it's a sump system then you may be fine with keeping it if your sump is not covered and you have really good water flow or you have a big enough of a gap on the lid and it's not 100% covered. If it is an oxygen problem you will probably have seen your fish breathing heavily fairly quickly after introducing them and never stop until they died
The white spots u mentioned sure sound like ich but keep in mind there can be a presence of ich and fish may not even contract it simply due to being healthy and having a good slime coat... and if all of your fish aren't breaking out in white spots and they're still dying you probably have something else going on that reduced the fish's immune system and made them more susceptible to ich so you just happened to see that sprout up as well.
But I'd say that you are not likely just buying all, already sick fish, unless all of them were together already in the same tank and being subjected to whatever disease is likely taking place here.. That being said if the LFS's same batch aren't dying but as soon as you put them in your tank there are problems then the disease is probably in YOUR tank now and by adding new fish, healthy or sick whatever... you are providing a new host to keep it going. Typically diseases don't affect fish and inverts the same so your inverts should be fine to leave in there but you need to keep your tank fishless for a period of at least 6 weeks. Regardless of what disease or parasite you may be encountering here Beth's advice is going to be the best to get rid of whatever's in there. Sucks.. you probably don't want to do that because you want stuff in your tank but it's really better to be safe than sorry. Don't let it deter you or get you down... just take the necessary measures to get rid of it then start adding live stock again.
Bryce E
Active Member
Marine velvet. Can kill very fast... causes fast respiration and can be hard to see on the fish and can kill before you've even noticed any changes on the skin.. But who knows. Not saying that's it. There are so many different things out there from parasites to bacteria to fungus. Just think the problem is pointing towards illness of some sort. But you're right.. a non infected fish getting infected and dying within a few days is very fast for anything that I'm aware of.
kopczynski
Member
Id try something other then clownfish, I got two as my first two fish, they both passed. Dont seem to be the best, "first fish" in the system.
2014FishKiller
Member
Bryce,
How could you tell is Marine velvet? Can some posting some picture?
How could you tell is Marine velvet? Can some posting some picture?
2014FishKiller
Member
I know that Bryce, my question is how could I or you know any fish have marine Velvet
Bryce E
Active Member
Oh.. well in its final stages there is a golden brown dusting on the skin which is where it gets its name. But the dusting can be hard to spot and sometimes the fish will die before it even shows any visible signs on the skin. It attacks the gills. I believe the other signs beyond the of the "dusting on the skin" is similar to ich.. maybe the fish scratching on stuff and increased respiration. I can post some pictures if you'd like and hopefully not be in any violation of SWF'S policy
kopczynski
Member
Look in beths thread on diseases.
2014FishKiller
Member
Thanks, I will posting some picture tomorrow with new thread, I think my fish have marine velvet instant of ICH.