Copy of my email to SWF.com

puffer32

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Here's my story. Maybe they can give me some answers.
Hi. I have bought 4 mandrins in the last 4 months at local pet stores in my area (Dallas Texas) All have died within a week. I only buy fat healthy looking fish and have a 150 gal tank with refuguim full of pods. You can see them all over the rocks and sand also. These fish did not die due to water conditions either. My tank is very healthy, and my other fish are good community fish. My mandrins all seem very healthy the whole time they are in my tank, eating pods and live foods that my other fish eat also. They never appear ill, except when they glide on the glass I have observed a sorta jerky motion in their bodies but figure its the current from the power heads because I don't see the jerky movements as they search the rocks for pods. Just today, my spotted mandrin was grazing as usual after eating afew live brine shrimp soaked in garlic exreme and vitamins, and later saw him dancing on the front of the glass (normal behavior with all my mandrins) on the front of the glass. An hour later I noticed it bump into a rock, the next time i saw it, it was dead stuck to my power head, the same story with the last 4 I had. The only explaination I can come up with is that mandrins in my area use suppliers who are catching them with cyanide in the phillipines I understand this is not uncommon. I would like to get another mandrin and was wondering if your supplier uses cyanide also and if they are caught in the phillipines. I have oredered from you sever times in the past and have never been disappointed and know you will answer my questions as honestly as you can. Thank you,
 

saltn00b

Active Member
what are your parameters?
have you checked for stray voltage?
are the other fish in the tank fine?
 

mryoung7

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Originally Posted by puffer32
Here's my story. Maybe they can give me some answers.
Hi. I have bought 4 mandrins in the last 4 months at local pet stores in my area (Dallas Texas) All have died within a week. I only buy fat healthy looking fish and have a 150 gal tank with refuguim full of pods. You can see them all over the rocks and sand also. These fish did not die due to water conditions either. My tank is very healthy, and my other fish are good community fish. My mandrins all seem very healthy the whole time they are in my tank, eating pods and live foods that my other fish eat also. They never appear ill, except when they glide on the glass I have observed a sorta jerky motion in their bodies but figure its the current from the power heads because I don't see the jerky movements as they search the rocks for pods. Just today, my spotted mandrin was grazing as usual after eating afew live brine shrimp soaked in garlic exreme and vitamins, and later saw him dancing on the front of the glass (normal behavior with all my mandrins) on the front of the glass. An hour later I noticed it bump into a rock, the next time i saw it, it was dead stuck to my power head, the same story with the last 4 I had. The only explaination I can come up with is that mandrins in my area use suppliers who are catching them with cyanide in the phillipines I understand this is not uncommon. I would like to get another mandrin and was wondering if your supplier uses cyanide also and if they are caught in the phillipines. I have oredered from you sever times in the past and have never been disappointed and know you will answer my questions as honestly as you can. Thank you,
i'd be shocked if swf.com distributed any cyanide-captured fish. to my knowledge, they speak out against such practices.
 

nigerbang

Active Member
I have known other major e-tailors that chemically capture their fish....It is very common..Thats why I dont buy livestock from them...Its sad but it happens all the time..prolly 95% of ppl on here have bought a chem capt. at one time or another and not known it...
 

teen

Active Member
Originally Posted by chris57
it could be marine ich.
i think this would affect all of his fish.
i agree that you should check for stray voltage, maybe mandarins are very sensitive to that sort of thing??
 

puffer32

Active Member
I have a scoooter blenny, part of the mandrin family, and hes fine, had him for months now. I really believe its the way they are captured, I read in a saltwater book that mandrins are hard to catch any other way, ino they should not catch them at all if this is the how they think they need to be captured.
No diseases or stray voltage in my tank, hubby already checked that out for me. Everything else is happy and healthy, just my poor mandrins.
I should just give up on them, and I will unless i am assured they are not drugged, if that one dies, then I will know I am way off base with this theory.
Haven't heard back from SWF.com yet, I just sent the email last night. I will let you all know what they say.
 

xdave

Active Member
Mandarins are less likely to be cyanide captured than most fish. Yours sound to be happy and healty untill found dead. Are you sure hes not just getting push around from current, sucked in then dying?
 

puffer32

Active Member
Originally Posted by xDave
Mandarins are less likely to be cyanide captured than most fish. Yours sound to be happy and healty untill found dead. Are you sure hes not just getting push around from current, sucked in then dying?
All 4? Doubt it :notsure: I have a book that disagrees with you about them being caught using cyanide, but who knows

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