Crazy question...maybe
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shaun larlee
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Then problem with play sand is it doesnt have silicates from what i understand. I have also heard many people who used play sand say they wish they hadnt.
I just changed from CC to a DSB 2 days ago. I purchased about 20% LS and the rest was dead sand from the pet store. It was only $5 for 5 pounds. Im new to sand but i would say spend the money now LS will seed dead sand eventually. Play sand is taking a wild chance as you never know what it contains...therefore you dont know what going into your tank.
I just changed from CC to a DSB 2 days ago. I purchased about 20% LS and the rest was dead sand from the pet store. It was only $5 for 5 pounds. Im new to sand but i would say spend the money now LS will seed dead sand eventually. Play sand is taking a wild chance as you never know what it contains...therefore you dont know what going into your tank.
fishygurl
Active Member
you can mix aragonite sand that isnt live which is pretty cheap and then add like 20 pounds of aragonite sand that is live to eventually get this to be live, you can also do this with live rock where you buy mainly base rock and then add some live rock to help get the bacteria for the other stuff and after awhile it will all eventually be "live"...doing this however slows down how fast it will become live, the more live stuff the faster it will be, if you have a refugium it will help be faster and keep a pod population in your tank if you plan on getting a mandarin or scooter blenny (but basically anything eats pods just most dont NEED it to survive)
shaun larlee
Member
hey fishy what is a pod or rather what does it look like???
kayla
New Member
Thanks. One of our lfs has ls from his tanks, sells for $1 per pound. So we'll more than likely go that way, I was just wondering.
Ok, another question. We are settng up a new 55, dimensions are 36 wide, 18 deep and 20 high. How much sand would you recommend. Wanting to do DSB and was wondering approximatley how many pounds it would take.
Ok, another question. We are settng up a new 55, dimensions are 36 wide, 18 deep and 20 high. How much sand would you recommend. Wanting to do DSB and was wondering approximatley how many pounds it would take.
shaun larlee
Member
the calculator on this site says per your dimensions a 5 inch bed is 145 pounds. But mine is really deep and i used right at 100 pounds in my 55 long here is a pic of my DSB.
kayla
New Member
The refugium is actually going to come for the 29, it's mine, and I want a mandarine so bad.....in like about 6 or 7 months or so. The 55 is my husbands tank. He isn't sure what he wants to do yet. We have an empty tank in the living room with a big ole chunk of resin fake rock setting it for atmosphere.
shaun larlee
Member
i want a manderin too...they are great but my tank is fairly new too
fishygurl
Active Member
pods are lil bugs i guess umm im not an expert on them but they are REALLY tiny and u cant really see most types of them, these are what mandarins eat all day and need to survive along with scooter blennies i think, people use refugiums to keep a "safe" colony of them but some of them will get shot back into their tank so the tank wont ever be podless if you have a good refugium.
Also why does he want a deep sand bed? i dont think you should do this unless you are planning on getting something that will be digging deep in the sand like a jawfish because you will have some sort of bacteria build up that is bad or something bad like that, again you can use the search button and type in like DSB or deep sand bed bad or good to see if you can find a post that people talk about if it is good or bad, i usually just use the search button and if i cant find what i need or it is a little different or not that much info i will make a post on it
Also why does he want a deep sand bed? i dont think you should do this unless you are planning on getting something that will be digging deep in the sand like a jawfish because you will have some sort of bacteria build up that is bad or something bad like that, again you can use the search button and type in like DSB or deep sand bed bad or good to see if you can find a post that people talk about if it is good or bad, i usually just use the search button and if i cant find what i need or it is a little different or not that much info i will make a post on it
kayla
New Member
Mine is very new also. I got some really bad advice from a few lfs here. My tank is 6 weeks old. My params are:
PH 8.2
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 1.0
Nitrate 5.0
SN 31
SG 1.0123
Did a 20% w/c today, trying to bring trates down still. But everything seems to be doing great.
2 false percs
3 blue-legged hermits
red spotted hawkfish
And we also have a 10g QT. But it hasn't yet cycled.
PH 8.2
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 1.0
Nitrate 5.0
SN 31
SG 1.0123
Did a 20% w/c today, trying to bring trates down still. But everything seems to be doing great.
2 false percs
3 blue-legged hermits
red spotted hawkfish
And we also have a 10g QT. But it hasn't yet cycled.
shaun larlee
Member
trates of 5 will not harm fish at all....
hey fishy a DSB adds a certain type of filtration from what ive read. If i remember right it keeps Nitrates in check my a reverse effect. I could be wrong but thats why i went deep
hey fishy a DSB adds a certain type of filtration from what ive read. If i remember right it keeps Nitrates in check my a reverse effect. I could be wrong but thats why i went deep
fishygurl
Active Member
Originally Posted by Shaun Larlee
http:///forum/post/2593983
trates of 5 will not harm fish at all....
hey fishy a DSB adds a certain type of filtration from what ive read. If i remember right it keeps Nitrates in check my a reverse effect. I could be wrong but thats why i went deep
ya there is some good stuff about dsb but i have also heard from many of the "experts" on here that there is bad things about dsb and ideally you should have a 2 inch sand bed or so, although i hear that refugiums its good to have a dsb...so i really dont get the difference but i mainly listen to them they have some scientific stuff about it but i dont remember, like not enough oxygen or movement causes dead spots or something idk you would have to wait till one of them and explains it
http:///forum/post/2593983
trates of 5 will not harm fish at all....
hey fishy a DSB adds a certain type of filtration from what ive read. If i remember right it keeps Nitrates in check my a reverse effect. I could be wrong but thats why i went deep
ya there is some good stuff about dsb but i have also heard from many of the "experts" on here that there is bad things about dsb and ideally you should have a 2 inch sand bed or so, although i hear that refugiums its good to have a dsb...so i really dont get the difference but i mainly listen to them they have some scientific stuff about it but i dont remember, like not enough oxygen or movement causes dead spots or something idk you would have to wait till one of them and explains it
fishygurl
Active Member
Originally Posted by Kayla
http:///forum/post/2593993
I plan on getting one. I will have only the 2 percs and the mandarine in a 29. The hawk will be moving to the 55.
i dont want to say you cant have a mandarin in their but... there i dont think its possible to have enough live rock to sustain the pods for a mandarin since they basically eat all day all night, hundreds of pods a day, do you plan on having a really big refugium?
You could buy pods from stores but that would get really expensive to do all the time since they eat SO many =/
What are your plans for this?
http:///forum/post/2593993
I plan on getting one. I will have only the 2 percs and the mandarine in a 29. The hawk will be moving to the 55.
i dont want to say you cant have a mandarin in their but... there i dont think its possible to have enough live rock to sustain the pods for a mandarin since they basically eat all day all night, hundreds of pods a day, do you plan on having a really big refugium?
You could buy pods from stores but that would get really expensive to do all the time since they eat SO many =/
What are your plans for this?
fishygurl
Active Member
Originally Posted by Kayla
http:///forum/post/2593997
SWF says minimum tank size for green mandarine goby is 10g, is this not true? What the lfs told me also. If they need bigger tank I may just have to love the one on my avatar from afar.
umm 10 gallon is big enough room wise for them to be in when you get it so if you could afford hundreds of pods (or have a way to add this many) to put in the tank everyday you could get one and have it live pretty happily, but this is unlikely that someone would spend this much to have it live in there long term
http:///forum/post/2593997
SWF says minimum tank size for green mandarine goby is 10g, is this not true? What the lfs told me also. If they need bigger tank I may just have to love the one on my avatar from afar.
umm 10 gallon is big enough room wise for them to be in when you get it so if you could afford hundreds of pods (or have a way to add this many) to put in the tank everyday you could get one and have it live pretty happily, but this is unlikely that someone would spend this much to have it live in there long term
fishygurl
Active Member
not sure what u mean by bbs and i dont feel like thinking really hard =P so what do u mean by bbs? and it has been known that mandarins sometimes eat frozen and flake foods but their diet is really special and they need tons of pods in order to survive long term they will slowly starve if they basically only have frozen