Dead Cyano

kube

Member
What is Cyano look like after its dead? Reason I've been using the turkey baster to suck it out and left some on the stand to dry out to see what it would look like. It shriveled and dried out and still was blackish red.
So after months of water changes and different GFO in multiple reactors and trying everything i could read online I cheated and used some red slime remover. The stuff is gone and not shooting out like it normally does when the lights come on but i still see the black little lumps. I'm wondering if I vacuum it up is there any way to clean the sand and put it back in the tank?
 

michelled

Member
I am very, very new to all of this. Can you explain what cyano is? I've seen reference to it but haven't made sense to what it actually is. Thanks!!
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by MichelleD
http:///forum/post/3169361
I am very, very new to all of this. Can you explain what cyano is? I've seen reference to it but haven't made sense to what it actually is. Thanks!!
amazing what you can find out if you research the web
What is Cyano?
Cyanobacteria are one of the oldest living microscopic organisms on earth. This organism has been in existence for more than 3.5 billion years. In fact, some articles describe it as a fossil. It is reputed to be the source of most organic material on earth and also the main source of oxygen. Cyanobacteria have many names including blue-green, red, purple, black and green slime algaes although they are not true algae. The color arises from a pigment in the cell which assists chlorophyll in photosynthesis. In fact, theories state that cyanobacteria may have been the source of choloroplasts, the structures that contain chlorophyll, in present plant cells. In nature, cyanobacteria can be found in water that is contaminated or is high in nitrates or phosphates.
Cyano Facts
1) Cyano is a large bacterium that is aerobic but can live under anaerobic conditions
2) It can tolerate extremes of temperature and salinity
3) Develops a protective mucous layer which gives rise to its 'slimy' nature.
4) can trap gas bubbles
5) can develop a modified cell called an akinete which stores carbohydrates under adverse conditions to aid in survival
6) can appear in multiple colors as listed above.
7) has an EXTREMELY FAST growth rate and can double every 20 minutes
is type of bacteria thrives in water that is high in nitrates and phosphates. Unfortunately, it is usually a sign of excess nutrients in the water. But don't take that too personally as a sign of poor water husbandry. Frequently, it can start when there is an undiscovered death of an animal or organism that is in your tank. However, it is more commonly related to excess nutrients. Many claim that 'low flow' is a cause, however, there is no proven evidence that this is the case. So, possible causes include:
--overfeeding
--undiscovered death of a tank inhabitant
--excess phosphates (using water or topoff that is high in phosphates)
--poor water maintenance, ie, poor nutrient export
So, What Do I Do Now?
Eradicating cyanobacteria, once established, is a frustrating experience that requires patience and attention to tank maintenance. Here are some of the most common recommendations to aid you:
1) Change feeding habits, many recommend every other day feeding, to reduce nitrates
2) Although no strong evidence to support this, consider increasing water flow or redirecting flow to dead areas
3) Skim
4) Find the source of contamination and remove it
5) Increase the frequency of water changes
6) Siphon off the cyanobacteria to help reduce the load. You can use airline tubing attached to hard plastic tubing. You can also siphon the substrate to remove detritus. Use a turkey baster to float if off the LR and then suction it up with a turkey baster. Be forewarned..it grows back quickly
7) Change to RO/DI water if you are not using it to reduce phosphates
8 ) Consider adding a phosphate binding media insert. You can also consider adding polyfilter until clear (helps bind phosphates).
9) You can consider reducing lighting but this is often of little help
10) Add cyano-eating livestock. Some cyano eaters include Mexican Red Leg Hermit Crabs, Astrea snails and Trochus snails.
 

xcali1985

Active Member
FYI, A limited amount of Cyano isn't that bad as it will use up nitrates and phosphates that are higher in FOWLR tanks, in a reef tank it can help keep levels in check and produce a nice tank. I have lots of it in my refuge, I leave it there, it uses nurtients that you don't want in the DT anyways.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Xcali1985
http:///forum/post/3169775
FYI, A limited amount of Cyano isn't that bad as it will use up nitrates and phosphates that are higher in FOWLR tanks, in a reef tank it can help keep levels in check and produce a nice tank. I have lots of it in my refuge, I leave it there, it uses nurtients that you don't want in the DT anyways.

New Friend...FYI...Cyano bacteria is a sign your tank is not healthy. It is not good for your tank and it spreads like a disease and suffocates coral.
To get rid of high phosphates and nitrates, use phosban or purigen and do regular water changes. Algae, as long as it does not take over, is needed it in a healthy tank..Cyano bacteria is not an algae.
 

reefkprz

Active Member
Originally Posted by Xcali1985
http:///forum/post/3169775
FYI, A limited amount of Cyano isn't that bad as it will use up nitrates and phosphates that are higher in FOWLR tanks, in a reef tank it can help keep levels in check and produce a nice tank. I have lots of it in my refuge, I leave it there, it uses nurtients that you don't want in the DT anyways.
I agree. cyano in the DT can be unsightly but having it grow in your fuge is fine as its reducing the things we want reduced. Lots of the so called experts agree like fenner, borneman, etc, that a small amount of cyano is often found in the healthiest of tanks/fuges, generally the older tanks, but is not always considered a sign of poor water quality, just available nutrients.
I usually have some cyano in my sump (right now after the crash I'm still eradicating it from my DT) but a small amount of cyano isnt nescicarily a bad thing. its massive cyano outbreaks that are a sign of very poor water quality.
I let it run rampant in my fowlr and after about 2 months it receeded to almost nothing, having consumed the available nutrients. since I dont have a clean up crew (clown trigger makes short work of them) I needed another route and cyano grows fast enough to make short work of the nitrates and phosphates. (along with a skimmer, to heklp prevent the build up of more nutrients)
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/3169876
I agree. cyano in the DT can be unsightly but having it grow in your fuge is fine as its reducing the things we want reduced. Lots of the so called experts agree like fenner, borneman, etc, that a small amount of cyano is often found in the healthiest of tanks/fuges, generally the older tanks, but is not always considered a sign of poor water quality, just available nutrients.
I usually have some cyano in my sump (right now after the crash I'm still eradicating it from my DT) but a small amount of cyano isnt nescicarily a bad thing. its massive cyano outbreaks that are a sign of very poor water quality.
I let it run rampant in my fowlr and after about 2 months it receeded to almost nothing, having consumed the available nutrients. since I dont have a clean up crew (clown trigger makes short work of them) I needed another route and cyano grows fast enough to make short work of the nitrates and phosphates. (along with a skimmer, to heklp prevent the build up of more nutrients)
Interesting, in a FOWLR it makes lots of sense...even in a fuge, I could understand it...However Xcali1985 said he wanted it in a reef, it will suffocate coral in a very short time. I wouldn't want it in a reef.
 

xcali1985

Active Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3169882
Interesting, in a FOWLR it makes lots of sense...even in a fuge, I could understand it...However Xcali1985 said he wanted it in a reef, it will suffocate coral in a very short time. I wouldn't want it in a reef.
I meant in a the fuge not the DT.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Point of info cyano assimilates nitrates no matter what method you use to kill it there will be a reintroduction of nitrates into your tank when it dies . Be ready with a water change
 

michelled

Member
Flower;3169865 said:

New Friend...FYI...Cyano bacteria is a sign your tank is not healthy. It is not good for your tank and it spreads like a disease and suffocates coral.QUOTE]
Hello and thank you, Flower.
 
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