Dear America: In 2016, can we please elect someone with half a brain?

2quills

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What is wrong with this country now a days? Why are people so he'll bent on persecuting one another?
In the last 200 years or so people have enjoyed more freedoms and have found more financial independence than the common man ever has in the past. Why is that and why does it feel like our system is failing us today?
Are the problems just to big and complex to figure out? Why do so many of us leave it up to a select few to decide while we as the people do nothing about it? Is it strait people's fault or wealthy white christian republicans?
Do people remember that people in this day in age found most of their freedoms under the strait, white man's leadership to begin with? Help me out. Because I can assure you that were not all evil people who don't care about the little guy or minorities. Do you really think that it's republican policy that hurts you the most?
Imagine you were a relief worker flown into some disaster area. You have tens of thousands of people, either hurt or hungry and thirsty. You want to help them all out but all you have is a few crates of bottled water that was just flown in. So you have to make the decision to try and help the worst. But in the process the shear hoards of people ultimately over power and trample the relief worker to try and get to the water. Now imagine you were that relief worker. Who do the people think is going to help them out once they've trampled big daddy relief worker to death?
 

beth

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I think its just so much easier to gripe and complain and see that bad side then is to just see the good. Or respect that diversity has value in our society, even when we disagree. The media, of all sorts, and the great freedom that we have, has opened a Pandora's box and in many ways made us more divisive. Its easier to focus on what makes us different then it is to see us as being a society with a core or common good.

That is the downside of a free society. We value our individuality and personal rights above all else.

You read the story in the Bible about Babel?
 

2quills

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I believe it was a place where a people decided to build a city for themselves where they would construct a tower that soared to the heavens. It became too big and complex to understand. There were too many voices and the people became confused. It turned out to be a disaster. God stepped in and smitted the whole darn thing. The people became separated and have been that way ever since.
It's funny how our society of different people's seem to value their individuality so much. Yet as we come ever closer to being united we lose sight of who we are. Traditional values appear to fade away.
 

beth

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Traditional values change over time. EVERYTHING changes over time. Society is always evolving--sometimes in a good way, and sometimes in a not so good way.
 

2quills

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I think America is in for a rude awakening unless some fundamental changes are made. Expecting to find order amidst a sea of opinions seems like a futile endeavour. Sooner or later one will have to rule.
 

phixer

Active Member
Just an opinion but I see this country becoming more divided each year. Not by race but by a cultural disintegration in relation to the rest of the world.

The good news is the pattern will result in a natural re-alignment after many of the government processes collapse due to becoming over burdened by the takers. This will force people to become independent and self sufficient the way we used to be.

I used to think folks were nut job extremists when they spoke of succession but it's really just a matter of people with similar values uniting.

The media is very biased in the US and plays a huge role in the divisiveness taking place. Most people I know feel this way and distrust big govt also.

It may take awhile but if things dont change Im pretty sure the US will go in the direction Ayn Rand predicted.
 

2quills

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Just an opinion but I see this country becoming more divided each year.  Not by race but by a cultural disintegration in relation to the rest of the world.   
The good news is the pattern will result in a natural re-alignment after many of the government processes collapse due to becoming over burdened by the takers.  This will force people to become independent and self sufficient the way we used to be.  
I used to think folks were nut job extremists when they spoke of succession but it's really just a matter of people with similar values uniting. 
The media is very biased in the US and plays a huge role in the divisiveness taking place.  Most people I know feel this way and distrust big govt also.
It may take awhile but if things dont change Im pretty sure the US will go in the direction Ayn Rand predicted.   
Beleive you me that if texas could secede from the union it most certainly would. This is why I think the system is fundamentally flawed in a sea of such diversity.
 

phixer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/396839/dear-america-in-2016-can-we-please-elect-someone-with-half-a-brain#post_3535801
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Originally Posted by Phixer
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Just an opinion but I see this country becoming more divided each year. Not by race but by a cultural disintegration in relation to the rest of the world.
The good news is the pattern will result in a natural re-alignment after many of the government processes collapse due to becoming over burdened by the takers. This will force people to become independent and self sufficient the way we used to be.
I used to think folks were nut job extremists when they spoke of succession but it's really just a matter of people with similar values uniting.
The media is very biased in the US and plays a huge role in the divisiveness taking place. Most people I know feel this way and distrust big govt also.
It may take awhile but if things dont change Im pretty sure the US will go in the direction Ayn Rand predicted.
Beleive you me that if texas could secede from the union it most certainly would. This is why I think the system is fundamentally flawed in a sea of such diversity.
Sometimes I wonder if succession would be such a bad thing when personal freedoms are replaced with more laws and bigger more intrusive govt. It is not the role of govt to baby sit people so comprehensively IMHO. Thats the role of the family which is quickly eroding also. It's an interesting subject, the nature of wanting fewer laws and smaller govt is a by product of people respecting freedom and independence.

It is incomprehensible to the socialists and communists (and there are a few around that depend upon the matrix for their survival) that fewer laws actually produce a stronger culture.
 

2quills

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Sometimes I wonder if succession would be such a bad thing when personal freedoms are replaced with more laws and bigger more intrusive govt.  It is not the role of govt to baby sit people so comprehensively IMHO.  Thats the role of the family which is quickly eroding also.     It's an interesting subject,  the nature of wanting fewer laws and smaller govt is a by product of people respecting freedom and independence.  
It is incomprehensible to the socialists and communists (and there are a few around that depend upon the matrix for their survival) that fewer laws actually produce a stronger culture.  
I would venture to guess that there are a whole lot of people out there that must feel a lot like some of our ancestors did when they decided to fight for their independence so many years ago. Eventually the rift between citizens will split for good and the United States will be remarkably different than what it has been in our short 200+ year history.
The more you try and control it, the worse it gets. I wonder just how many laws are on the books nowadays.
 

phixer

Active Member
Your right. Id speculate that there are so many laws on record today that 75% of Americans break at least one a month without even knowing it. Especially when it comes to traffic and parking. Just a guess though. Perhaps because many are simply not enforced.

The lines are being drawn now, and I see a division taking place which is unfortunate. In the news... the gay marriage thing in Utah. I know it's throwing a match on some gas (possibly baiting those stuck in the matrix) but I really dont understand the hypocrisy of it.

LOL, so get rid of all marriage laws and allow someone to have 10 husbands or wives or marry a flock of zebra... Extreme maybe, they want the govt to allow gay marriage but want the same govt to restrict other people from what they believe in?
Just making a point, all or nothing. Things like this cause division.
 

2quills

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Kind of hard to be independent with big daddy always looking over your shoulder. We need to quit sugar coating the truth. People need to stop being so reliant on government to survive because at this rate it might not be there in the future to save you. Nobody owes anybody anything that they aren't willing to give freely. Even religion understood the genius behind keeping things simple.
 
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