Did nitrates kill my shrimp?

sac10918

Member
Hi everyone...
I have been trying to get my Nitrates down. They range from 10-20 ppm. I have been doing 20% water changes every day this week. I read on this site that doing them everyday for a week is a good method to lower them. I am using boxed saltwater from the ocean, not a mix. Would nitrates of 20 be enough to kill my peppermint shrimp or a hermit crab?
 

mrdc

Active Member
Not sure if 20 would have killed them but I do know shrimps are sensitive to nitrates and medications.
 

sufunk

Member
dont think the 20 nitrates would neccessarily kill it but maybe. More likely is the water change. Shrimp are very succeptible to water changes especially i believe SG. Are you using a refractometer to make sure that the SG is exact on the change. Also obviously temperature should be the same. Im having nitrate probs as well but am doin 10-15%every 2-3 days with a 25% mixed in like every 5 changes. doing 20%every day your SG needs to be exact
 

ctgretzky9

Member
Originally Posted by sac10918
Hi everyone...
I have been trying to get my Nitrates down. They range from 10-20 ppm. I have been doing 20% water changes every day this week. I read on this site that doing them everyday for a week is a good method to lower them. I am using boxed saltwater from the ocean, not a mix. Would nitrates of 20 be enough to kill my peppermint shrimp or a hermit crab?

The nitrates at that level would be fine. They shouldnt kill a shrimp. 10-20 is not a bad number to be at.
What I would be more concerned about it such a rapid water change every day of 20%.
Me thinks you are changing other parameters that the shrimp didnt like such as salinity, alkalinity or pH. Inverts are sensitive more to changes than stability.
Also, how long has the shrimp been there? Do you dose iodine? How old is the tank? What are some of your other parameters?
 

sac10918

Member
Hmm... You make a good point. I didn't really consider the SG since I am using boxed water and I figured it would be pretty constant. The shrimp actually died before I began doing these water changes though. Actually, I am not even certain he died, I just havent seen him for like 2 weeks and he is usually pretty active. Could you explain the difference between a refractometer and a hydrometer? Is the refractometer more accurate? I have a thermometer/hydrometer that I use to check the SG and it doesnt seem that accurate. Thanks for the help!
 

sufunk

Member
hydrometer is a joke and waste of my $16
refractometer is great, kinda expensive ($50)but AWESOME
put a drop of water on it, wait 30 seconds, look into the eyehole and it gives you an EXACT reading. My hydrometer will read from 1.020 to 1.03 depending on bublles and how high its filled. refractometer was the best $50 ive spent so far, has taken all the fear and guesswork out of large or frequent water changes
 

ctgretzky9

Member
Originally Posted by sac10918
Hmm... You make a good point. I didn't really consider the SG since I am using boxed water and I figured it would be pretty constant. The shrimp actually died before I began doing these water changes though. Actually, I am not even certain he died, I just havent seen him for like 2 weeks and he is usually pretty active. Could you explain the difference between a refractometer and a hydrometer? Is the refractometer more accurate? I have a thermometer/hydrometer that I use to check the SG and it doesnt seem that accurate. Thanks for the help!

It is super imprtant to match your parameters when doing water changes. SG in certain pre-mixed salt water (like nutri-sea i think its called?) is high...around 1.026. This isnt bad, but if YOUR tank is 1.024 say, a large swing in a short time can affect things.
Are you sure he didn molt? Sometimes they hide for a while, because their new shell is "sensitive."
A refractometer gives an accurate result in salinity, and from unit to unit are pretty much dead on. You can pretty much count on what the reading is is absolutely correct-for our purposes
Hydrometers can vary wildly. I have seen the same water measured at 1.020 with one and 1.025 with another.
The good thing, is they are usually consitent. If you can get a refractometer to borrow (many lfs will loan you one if you are a good customer), you can compare to your readings, and just adjust your readings. For example...the refractometer gives you a reading of 1.025. Your hydrometer says 1.022. You will need to measure with your hydrometer in the future and add .003
 
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