Dimmer switch on a Power Head?????????

bmkj02

Member
Weird question here. I was installing a fan at a friends house and she then wanted me to install a dimmer switch for it. After I installed it I had an idea but want to know if it can be done before I start. I have a 24g Aquapod. Have a Maxi jet 1200 which isnt enough flow so I switch it with a Maxi Jet 600 and put the mod kit on it. Its a lot better but maybe a tad on the high side. Can I run a dimmer switch on it to control the flow better?
 

wattsupdoc

Active Member
I remember somewhere someone doing this, but cant recall the outcome.
I am pretty sure it worked out, but pump life was greatly shortened. Anyways, I hope you didn't install a dimmer for the fan at your friends. You should have installed a fan rated speed control (rheostat or commonly called a fan control
). Anywho, that's what you would want to use for the control of the pump. But myself, I wouldn't do it. I don't believe the flow is too high. Do some adjusting, let you tank inhabitants acclimate to the improved flow.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
I remember reading about a similar idea over on the other site and no it can't be done......the dimmer won't work with the powerhead.....
 
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calvertbill

Guest
For what it's worth, the VorTech PHs come with a built in potentiometer to adjust the motor speed. I don't know why it wouldn't work with any other electric motor but I'd check with an electric supply house because there are a lot of kinds of potentiometers and rheostats out there.
 

scsinet

Active Member
Shaded pole motors like fans have can be controlled to some extent by a dimmer switch, but it's very inefficient and unreliabile, and will greatly reduce the life of the motor because they will run hot. The motor will also hum terribly on lower speeds.
I won't get into technical details, but dimmer switches don't actually adjust voltage, they adjust duty cycle. Regardless, these motors by design have their speed set more by line frequency than by voltage. A variable frequency drive (VFD) is the right control for the job, but they are crazy expensive. As a compromise, use a speed control designed for ceiling fans. They'll work okay and shouldn't harm the motor. They also shouldn't cause hum.
Powerheads use permanent magnet motors, and can only be speed controlled by varying the frequency (see VFD above). Even ceiling fan controls will not work. You are far better off finding a way to constrict the output of the powerhead to reduce the water flow. Or, use smaller powerheads, or powerheads that are designed to be speed controlled, such as the vortechs or Tunze type deals. The latter powerheads are specifically designed to be speed controlled and use a special motor. That is why the potentiometer controls work with them; they're built for it.
Keep in mind, when I talk about fans, I'm talking about AC fans like the clip type fans, not the small computer-type fans that many folks use - these are DC units that can be controlled more easily. In fact, there are manufacturers that make speed controls specifically designed to control these types of fans, most computer stores that carry "modding" supplies have them. You can also get them online at places like newegg, frozenCPU, etc.
 
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