dinoflagellates

[snakeblitz33]

yup. i got a case of dino.
steps?
options?
what caused it?
drastic changes?
would it cause leather corals to close up?

 

[flower]

I think it's a case of new tank set-up. The first year is a pain in the butt.
What causes it? ... The same thing that causes hair algae, and the cure is the same as well. If it attaches to any coral it wouldn't be good. If all the corals are closed up, it's time to do some water tests. PO4 as you know, will give you a false negative reading. How Dino could happen with a healthy turf scrubber is a mystery to me.
I kind of look at like I do cyano, Remove what you can by hand (I use paper towel for a good grip), and do lots of daily water changes to get the water back on track. Then I also consider how old are the bulbs, and watch how much I feed.
I saw this yesterday, but thought you were giving another lesson, I'm not used to you needing any advice on stuff like this.

 

[eric b 125]

Hey bro, I skimmed through this article and I think it covers everything you asked.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/

 

[sweatervest13]

Well, that stinks. I see plenty of water changes in your future.
And Flower. I don't think he has a algae scrubber online right now.

 

[gemmy]

Peroxide is the only thing that worked for me. I also reduced my feedings drastically.

 

[snakeblitz33]

I think it was caused by me reaquascaping the tank. I stirred up a bunch of junk and a fee days later it just took off.
Whats worse is my father in law was let go from his job of 30 years. He was a groundskeeper for a hotel chain and he called his boss and asked if he could hire a little help and his boss fired him. Now, my mother in law takes care of my daughter while my wife is working and i am in school. I wonder if i might have to quit school. I hope not. We will just have to see what the next few werks bring.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/395964/dinoflagellates#post_3526854
I think it was caused by me reaquascaping the tank. I stirred up a bunch of junk and a fee days later it just took off.
Whats worse is my father in law was let go from his job of 30 years. He was a groundskeeper for a hotel chain and he called his boss and asked if he could hire a little help and his boss fired him. Now, my mother in law takes care of my daughter while my wife is working and i am in school. I wonder if i might have to quit school. I hope not. We will just have to see what the next few werks bring.
That sure is a full plate, saying a prayer for you and yours, and for encouragement, offering a... {{{{{BIG Hug}}}}}

 

[snakeblitz33]

And now a good friend of mine was talking about suicide this morning after his wife left him a few weeks ago. I had to run intervention and tell his family behind his back about what he was saying in a plea for help. Ugh. Today should have went better then this.
Again, thoughts of takin the tank and converting it to a freshwater planted system keeps tunning through my mind. Less to worry about and a lot cheaper to maintain. A lot less frustrating.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/395964/dinoflagellates#post_3526896
And now a good friend of mine was talking about suicide this morning after his wife left him a few weeks ago. I had to run intervention and tell his family behind his back about what he was saying in a plea for help. Ugh. Today should have went better then this.
Again, thoughts of takin the tank and converting it to a freshwater planted system keeps tunning through my mind. Less to worry about and a lot cheaper to maintain. A lot less frustrating.
Wow...the fish tank seems to be the least of your troubles. I had more trouble with the FW tanks then I ever did with SW. I honestly believe SW is much easier to maintain. Then again, I never heard of using RO water until I went to SW. That no doubt was why algae was my constant foe. I would totally break down and clean my tanks once a year, fish in the buckets, vacuum the substrate and the whole bit. Water changes seem like a dream vacation, and the algae eaters really do their job.

 

[eric b 125]

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/395964/dinoflagellates#post_3526948
Wow...the fish tank seems to be the least of your troubles. I had more trouble with the FW tanks then I ever did with SW. I honestly believe SW is much easier to maintain. Then again, I never heard of using RO water until I went to SW. That no doubt was why algae was my constant foe. I would totally break down and clean my tanks once a year, fish in the buckets, vacuum the substrate and the whole bit. Water changes seem like a dream vacation, and the algae eaters really do their job.
I also never had much luck with fresh water.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by Eric B 125 http:///t/395964/dinoflagellates#post_3526972
I also never had much luck with fresh water.
I kept fish since I was 15, I purchased a 10g tank with my first paycheck from Taco Bell, that was back in 1975. So I wouldn't say I had no luck, but that constant battle of algae was a pain in the back (Literally). I was always cleaning the décor, and the fish would nibble or uproot my planted tanks. Once a year I would break down the whole tank for major cleaning.
I have only been doing SW for around 13 years now.

 

[2quills]

Wow, and here I am thinking that freshwater always seemed to be a walk in the park comparatively speaking.

 

[foodshape]

Snake really sorry to hear about your troubles - seems like a confluence of bad fortune; good luck with it.
As for FW being easy or hard, imho it depends. I think that as with SW you have to do your homework and give it the respect it deserves to get it right. Appropriate, compatible stocking with quality stock (lots of poor quality, diseased stock going around), appropriate tank size & filtration, and good husbandry (including QT) - tackle those things and ime basic FW is indeed easier and much cheaper than SW. Doing a planted tank adds a dimension as appropriate lighting and correct nutrient dosage, CO2, etc, come into play. Keeping territorial fish (like most cichlids) adds another dimension, etc.
Right next to my fledgling 75g SW setup is a 125g Tropheus tank I've had running for 6 yrs now. Not so long ago people considered Tropheus to be a nightmare, to be attempted by advanced and brave aquarists only... but with the wealth of info now available courtesy of the internet, if you're adept at sorting the wheat from the chaff, I actually had a pretty easy time of it. (Incredibly active and entertaining btw, if you've never seen a Tropheus colony). The homework really paid off for me, and this is actually a pretty easy and inexpensive tank for me to maintain. I could go on with other examples but you get the picture. I'm getting into SW also for the lifeform diversity (and yes, that extra little color boost). But man is a reef tank spendy by comparison!

 

[snakeblitz33]

I did a 40g water change and my dino has gotten worse.
Im ready to throw in the towel. Im done, at least until i get out of college and have more spending money.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/395964/dinoflagellates#post_3527070
I did a 40g water change and my dino has gotten worse.
Im ready to throw in the towel. Im done, at least until i get out of college and have more spending money.
Worse??? Bad lights, bad water...???? I hate new tanks, they go through so many changes. The only time I ever had dinoflagellates was on a fake décor near the top of the seahorses tank, I wanted to use it as a feeding dish... anyway, I removed that one piece and it never showed up again.
I feel your pain. I need new light bulbs (can't afford them right now)...I have hair algae trying rear it's ugly head as a result. I'm in the middle of getting the tub ripped out, and a new shower installed, my mother fell in the tub, and needs a walk in shower...

 

[snakeblitz33]

My tank isn't extremely new... I set it up in October of last year.

 

[snakeblitz33]

Anyway, doesn't matter now. I'm turning in the livestock this evening for LFS credit and will be draining it later this week. I might just dry the rock out and store it as base rock. I'll be setting up a freshwater planted tank later in September if all goes well.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/395964/dinoflagellates#post_3527205
Anyway, doesn't matter now. I'm turning in the livestock this evening for LFS credit and will be draining it later this week. I might just dry the rock out and store it as base rock. I'll be setting up a freshwater planted tank later in September if all goes well.

Are you still going to hang out here?

 

[2quills]

Good luck, Seth.
I've carried thoughts of doing a nice planted tank for years. There's a local down here that one of the fish stores has pictures of plastered on their wall. It's a gorgeous tank. Would love to do something like that.

 

[snakeblitz33]

Ill be here. But probably not as much as i used to. If i decide to set up a ten gallon salt tank ill probably do a build. But at this moment, the 75g is done.
2quills, planted tanks are pretty awesome. Im actually going to do a louisiana biotope tank using many flora and fauna found in the local bayou. (Cant beat free)