Do you believe that animals go to heaven?

camfish

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I personally believe that animals do not go to heaven, but I can't remember the bible actually saying whether they do or don't.
Discuss.
 

camfish

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I do vaguely remember reading about animals being souless but I wasn't for sure. I too don't believe in heaven, but I do like reading about Christianity
 

unleashed

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if there is such a thing as heaven i can't say there is or is not.. no one has proven one way or another.. but if there really is such a place I believe that humans will be the only species not invited to enter.. yes animals can seam to be cruel and yes they kill but they always have a reason.. its a natural chain in which they always follow be it for food or self defense even survival of the species as the weaker shal parish... but they never kill for greed .. they never do things just because they can.. if there truly is a heaven... humans wont be welcomed soul or not
 

camfish

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Originally Posted by unleashed
http:///forum/post/2878661
if there is such a thing as heaven i can't say there is or is not.. no one has proven one way or another.. but if there really is such a place I believe that humans will be the only species not invited to enter.. yes animals can seam to be cruel and yes they kill but they always have a reason.. its a natural chain in which they always follow be it for food or self defense even survival of the species as the weaker shal parish... but they never kill for greed .. they never do things just because they can.. if there truly is a heaven... humans wont be welcomed soul or not
Actually the reason animals don't kill for greed is because they are not moral animals like we are. We are moral animals and that is the reason we GO to heaven. Animals are pure and souless, we have souls, but they are tainted. So despite the fact that we aren't "good" we deserve heaven more. At least that's the way most Christians would think.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by camfish
http:///forum/post/2878665
Actually the reason animals don't kill for greed is because they are not moral animals like we are. We are moral animals and that is the reason we GO to heaven. Animals are pure and souless, we have souls, but they are tainted. So despite the fact that we aren't "good" we deserve heaven more. At least that's the way most Christians would think.
i want proof of this... i have met some people in my day and i am SURE they dont have a soul... take my eX for example... and lawyers...
 

camfish

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Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2878674
i want proof of this... i have met some people in my day and i am SURE they dont have a soul... take my eX for example... and lawyers...

What's your definition of a soul? If it's your ticket to the Kingdom of Heaven, then I don't believe anyone has one or anything has one...but by the Christian belief everyone has one and it can be sent to one of two places
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by camfish
http:///forum/post/2878678
What's your definition of a soul?
here is dictionary.com definition... take your pick...
SOUL -
1.the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
2. the spiritual part of humans regarded in its moral aspect, or as believed to survive death and be subject to happiness or misery in a life to come: arguing the immortality of the soul.
3. the disembodied spirit of a deceased person: He feared the soul of the deceased would haunt him.
4. the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments.
5. a human being; person.
6. high-mindedness; noble warmth of feeling, spirit or courage, etc.
7. the animating principle; the essential element or part of something.
8. the inspirer or moving spirit of some action, movement, etc.
9. the embodiment of some quality: He was the very soul of tact.
10. (initial capital letter) Christian Science. God; the divine source of all identity and individuality.
11. shared ethnic awareness and pride among black people, esp. black Americans.
12. deeply felt emotion, as conveyed or expressed by a performer or artist.
13. soul music.
 

camfish

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Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2878684
here is dictionary.com definition... take your pick...
SOUL -
1.the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
2. the spiritual part of humans regarded in its moral aspect, or as believed to survive death and be subject to happiness or misery in a life to come: arguing the immortality of the soul.
3. the disembodied spirit of a deceased person: He feared the soul of the deceased would haunt him.
4. the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments.
5. a human being; person.
6. high-mindedness; noble warmth of feeling, spirit or courage, etc.
7. the animating principle; the essential element or part of something.
8. the inspirer or moving spirit of some action, movement, etc.
9. the embodiment of some quality: He was the very soul of tact.
10. (initial capital letter) Christian Science. God; the divine source of all identity and individuality.
11. shared ethnic awareness and pride among black people, esp. black Americans.
12. deeply felt emotion, as conveyed or expressed by a performer or artist.
13. soul music.
I didn't ask for Dictionary.com's definition
But it helped my point that there is more than one definition of soul.
 

girlina4x4

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I don't believe that anyone or anything goes to heaven. I do really like the Rainbow Bridge poem though. very comforting after losing a pet:
The Rainbow Bridge Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together.... Author unknown...
 

camfish

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Cool poem. I guess animals do have souls by one definition and that is that they have personality.
 

reefforbrains

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Can you imaging how many chickens there are in heaven?
Lets see, we eat about 10 BILLION every year....ok I am being silly. I know there are some bad chickens....but lets still consider at least MOST of them try hard to live a good life and make good choices.
That still leaves about a 8 Billion per year crossing the pearly gates.
If animals ARE in heaven,...then something to consider.
Live a good life, make good choices and be prepared to for judgement day. Also be nice to any chickens you happen to encounter while on earth for when you do pass on-
THEY WILL OUTNUMBER PEOPLE approx 20,000-1
Now all of a sudden I am terrified of dying...............

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Post script- If there are any chickens reading this. Please note that I always liked you guys...
 
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