Don't ask a migrant for papers...

stdreb27

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But god forbid a state writing a law, letting local cops who pull someone over for speeding, to ask for immagation papers when they notice the guy can't speak english...
Americans must decide if, in the name of homeland security, they are willing to allow TSA operatives to storm public places in their communities with no warning, pat them down, and search their bags. And they better decide quickly.
Bus travelers were shocked when jackbooted TSA officers in black SWAT-style uniforms descended unannounced upon the Tampa Greyhound bus station in April with local, state and federal law enforcement agencies and federal bureaucrats in tow.
A news report by ABC Action News in Tampa showed passengers being given the signature pat downs Americans are used to watching the Transportation Security Administration screeners perform at our airports. Canine teams sniffed their bags and the buses they rode. Immigration officials hunted for large sums of cash as part of an anti-smuggling initiative.
The TSA clearly intends for these out-of-nowhere swarms by its officers at community transit centers, bus stops and public events to become a routine and accepted part of American life.
The TSA has conducted 8,000 of these security sweeps across the country in the past year alone, TSA chief John Pistole told a Senate committee June 14. They are part of its VIPR (Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response) program, which targets public transit related places.
All of which is enough to make you wonder if we are watching the formation of the "civilian national security force" President Obama called for on the campaign trail "that is just as powerful, just as strong and just as well funded" as the military.
The VIPR swarm on Wednesday, the TSA's largest so far, was such a shocking display of the agency's power that it set the blogosphere yle="FONT-SIZE: medium">abuzz.
In a massive flex of muscle most people didn't know the TSA had, the agency led dozens of federal and state law enforcement agencies in a VIPR exercise that covered three states and 5,000 square miles. According to the Marietta Times, the sweep used reconnaissance aircraft and "multiple airborne assets, including Blackhawk helicopters and fixed wing aircraft as well as waterborne and surface teams."
When did the TSA get this powerful? Last year, Pistole told USA Today he wanted to "take the TSA to the next level," building it into a "national-security, counterterrorism organization, fully integrated into U.S. government efforts."
What few people realize is how far Pistole has already come in his quest. This is apparently what that next level looks like. More than 300 law enforcement and military personnel swept through a 100-mile stretch of the Ohio Valley alone, examining the area's industrial infrastructure, the Charleston Gazette
reported.
Federal air marshals, the Army Corps of Engineers, the U.S. Coast Guard, the FBI, the Office of Homeland Security and two dozen other federal, state and local agencies teamed up to scour the state's roads, bridges, water supply and transit centers under the TSA's leadership.
What is remarkable about these security swarms is that they don't just involve federal, state and local law enforcement officials. The TSA brings in squads of bureaucrats from state and federal agencies as well, everything from transportation departments to departments of natural resources.
The TSA had received no specific threats about the Tampa bus station before the April sweep, reporters were told.
They were there "to sort of invent the wheel in advance in case we have to if there ever is specific intelligence requiring us to be here," said Gary Milano with the Department of Homeland Security in an ABC News Action television report. "This way us and our partners are ready to move in at a moment's notice."
Federal immigration officials from Customs and Border Patrol swept the station with the TSA, looking for "immigration violations, threats to national security" and "bulk cash smuggling." (How the bulk cash smuggling investigation related to national security was never explained.)
"We'll be back," Milano told reporters. "We won't say when we'll be back. This way the bad guys are on notice we'll be back."
The TSA gave the same vague answers when asked about the three-state sweep this week. That sweep wasn't in response to any specific security threat, either.
ium">The purpose was to "have a visible presence and let people know we're out here," Michael Cleveland, federal security director for TSA operations in West Virginia told the Gazette. "It can be a deterrent."
It might be -- if Americans are willing to live this way.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/06/tsa_now_storming_public_places_8000_times_a_tear.html
 

aquaknight

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In case anyone missed seeing the text-embeded link;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
In any case, that is some crazy future movie type stuff. Shame the story will never get the coverage it should.
I am curious though, what if your that guy, who's used up his 3 tardies at work, and then your bus gets stopped by the TSA. Do you get a note or something?
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight http:///forum/thread/386329/don-t-ask-a-migrant-for-papers#post_3392738
In case anyone missed seeing the text-embeded link;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
In any case, that is some crazy future movie type stuff. Shame the story will never get the coverage it should.
I am curious though, what if your that guy, who's used up his 3 tardies at work, and then your bus gets stopped by the TSA. Do you get a note or something?

It just blows my mind, sue a state for wanting to verify immigration status, (with just cause) after someone get's pulled over, and providing just cause for the officer to believe he's not an american citizen, but authorizing almost literally a black helicopter drop in on a bus of travelers. Complete with a gallery of bureaucrats....
 

reefraff

Active Member
If the cops had a reasonable explanation for their actions I'd tend to give them a break but this crap sounds crazy.
Time to pick up an AK 47. I think I'll name it Bionic.
 

monsinour

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pretty sure you like your security that you have. I dont agree with sueing someone because they think your an illegal because you dont speak english. Thats just stupid. But I dont find anything wrong with the transportation security agency checking the security status of major transportation centers. If you arent doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/386329/don-t-ask-a-migrant-for-papers#post_3392838
pretty sure you like your security that you have. I dont agree with sueing someone because they think your an illegal because you dont speak english. Thats just stupid. But I dont find anything wrong with the transportation security agency checking the security status of major transportation centers. If you arent doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
maybe you should retype that, and re-arrange the words where they make sense...
 

aquaknight

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I just applied for the rights to the movie script.
The bus was in Tampa. Wait a tick, there's some space at the Inn @ Gitmo now, right? Anyway since they use helicopters, they wouldn't even have to stop the bus, they'd just drop one of those large magnets to pick the bus, and transport everyone to Gitmo, for proper checking of security and immigration status. (anyone else get the irony here, checking immigration status in a foreign country) Then the story reveals the dark secrets about the US and big brother, big reveal shot is of thousands of helicopters and buses being delievered. Their plans to lobotomize everyone and vote democrat and so on (just a cheap shot here). But there's one guy who they don't neuter correctly, and he saves the day. Directed by Michael Bay, lead role by Bruce Willis (have to be an older guy, he is from Florida overall). Maybe throw in a love twist, have to save her, and boom, 100 million coming my way...
So doesn't seem that irrational now, huh? Well except the part about missing one person. I'm fairly confident the US government would get 'em all.....
 
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