dwarf fuzzy lion

cdubbs

Member
i got a dwarf fuzzy lion yestarday from the lfs..he is soo cool.. He eats great and the shark and him seem to be getting along just fine. I couldnt find the lion this morning but he blended in with the rock so good. it took me 5 min to find him. Are they suppose to swim alot?Anyone have any good info on them?
 

ac

Member
You should try something new and research the animal before you buy it. I don't see why you ask questions here, you don't follow any good advice anyway.
 

cdubbs

Member
what are u talking about? So the dwarf lion was a bad idea? I dont see why. I think some of u are too crazy about this fish keeping. it is suppose to be fun and not so crazy. U gotta just calm down..i am just here to get some info on my fish..alot of u are just here to criticize peope..if u dont wanna help me than dont say anything at all..i think thats what alot of people should start doing,.nothing helpful to say dont say it
 
Most lion fish tend to swim very slowly and tend to stay near rocks or plants for cover. Fuzzy's like to hang around the live rock and blend in. It is easier to catch dinner if it don't see you. :p Along them same lines, when ever you have your hands in the tank make sure you know where he is. A sting from a lion fish is something that you will not easily forget.
What is the lion eating ? You should try to get him over to frozen foods (aka. krill, squid, shrimp, ect.) ASAP. Feeder like gold fish and live bearers are not healthy for the lion in the long run. It can be a challenge some times to get them to switch, but it can be done.
I also agree with AC. You should always research the animal before purchacing them. I work at a LFS, you would not believe the number of times people come with questions about an animal they got some where else. They just thought it looked cool, and they don't have a clue how to care for it. The one that blew my mind was a guy fell in love with a green morray (about 26 inches), he bought with out any idea of how big or knowing just how aggressive they were. He added it to his display reef tank at his office. With in a month he lost about $400 dollars of fish and a few corals( the corals were knocked over behind the live rock). He couldn't figure out what was happening to his fish. He found out when his secratary called him out of his office and he seen the green trying swallowing his chevron tang. I would say that was an expensive lesson, this happened just last month. Do a little research on the animal before you buy it, do a search on any search engine and you will find a ton of info on them. Or ask about them here or do a search on the forum about it, there is alot of folk that have tons of experience and have kept some really rare fish. Impulse buys can be very expensive and can ruin the tank your going for. Most LFS will hold an animal for a day, that way you can find out if it is going to work for you or not.
HTH
-Brian
 

cdubbs

Member
thank you very much for the info..i did some research on them before i got him but u can always learn more..he isnt eating frozen food yet, he ate a bunch of ghost shrimp last night and today i tried to feed him frozen silversides but he wouldnt accept it, but when i through some guppies in there he went right after them..it took me like 10min to find him this morning, he was so perfectly blended in with the LR. And now he is hanging out on top of the powerhead that rund my skimmer. Whats the best way to get them to eat frozen foods?
 

fishy88

Member
i wouldnt buy anymore fish untill your larger tank is set up.I have heard that lions can sting sharks. this causes the shark to die.
 

krowleey

Active Member

Originally posted by AC
You should try something new and research the animal before you buy it. I don't see why you ask questions here, you don't follow any good advice anyway.

why do ppl get away with these kinds of posts? thats two threads in a row with these kinds of remarks instead of help/opinions
 

interj

Member
Cdubbs,
Nice picture, I just picked up the same fish last night. My guy is still not comfortable to swim around like yours. He got picked on when he was added so he did not come out to eat last night. I'll see if he goes for the MYSIS tonight.
 

interj

Member
My humma, it's not bothering him today.
I have a humma and a maroon clown I cycled the tank with. Its been a few months and nitrites have finally gone down. The lion was the first new addition so I expected some "picking". I figured the lion would be able to fend it off and he did.
Hopefull he eats tonight so I don't have to get the guppies.
 

squidd

Active Member
Keep an eye on them though...I've been wanting to add a Trigger to my aggressive tank, but haven't yet, because of stories of Triggers nipping the fins off Lions and stressing them to death...
But I've also heard stories of Lions "stinging" Sharks...and mine have been doing fine for some time now...
The Lion is more of a "Top Water/Mid Tank" fish and the Bamboo is a bethnic creature, the tank is large enough (for now) so they don't have to compete for space or food...so I don't foresee much problem coming up with them.
I've also heard stories of Lions and Triggers getting along just fine too, so we'll just have to see.
:cool:
 

cdubbs

Member
in order for a lion to sting do they have to want to sting u or does it sting if anything touches them. I saw my sharj swim right over the lion and nothing happened to him, so im thinking that the lion has to do something to sting u or another fish.
 
The way it works is there is a small venom sack at the end of each spine. The spines are hollow, when pressure is applied to the spine the venom is injected thru the spine like a hypodermic. This is totally defensive. Watch when a lion feels threatened, they turn sideways and spread there spines to give max protection. So even if the animal is dead, pressure on the spine will still cause the venom to be released.
To get a lion on to frozen can sometimes be a challenge. Don't feed him for a few days let him get hungry. Give him ONE feeder to get him into hunt mode. After he takes the feeder, add a chunk of squid or krill and let it get blown across the tank by a power head, try to get it as close to him as possible. The movement should attract the lion, and with a little luck he will grab it. Next feeding try just the frozen if he don't show interest repeat the process. This worked for myself, but others have not had sucess with this method. Mine after a couple of weeks started just taking the frozen foods.
HTH
-Brian
 

harlequin

Member
And dont feed him guppies or any other fresh water fish, they are bad to use as feeder fish for saltwater fish. You do plan on a bigger tank hopefully? Sharks require 150+ tanks depending on the species and I am prolly under guessing the tank size. Your lion is not an open water swimmer. The spines are not totally defensive, they have been seen to purposely use the spikes on other fish before and also they are not always deadly to sharks. In fact there have been lions found in the stomaches of caught sharks in the wild. Sharks will eat anything in the wild.
 

cdubbs

Member
ok thanks everyone..im gonna first try a silverside on a acrylic feeding stick..than if that dont work ill go get some ghost shrimp and try ur method..yes i do plan on getting a bigger tank..in a few months i will be either buildin a tank around 300gal or if i dont have confidence in my building skills than i will buy a minimum 180gal tank. The shark sometime will swim right over the spines and the spines will just flow with the shark and not stand streight up and poke him.i guess the lion has some control over who gets stung. They seem to get along really good.
 

tony detroit

Active Member

Originally posted by AC
You should try something new and research the animal before you buy it. I don't see why you ask questions here, you don't follow any good advice anyway.

Bravo AC
cdubbs-You come to a board for advice, don't listen to it, and then wonder why all the commotion.
 

cdubbs

Member
damn people are hating on me in this forum huh? Guess u guys al feel really macho talking $hi1 on a messege board meant for fish talking. Well IMO i think that when people ask questions here it is for others opinions and advice and it is up to that person to either take it or leave it..if i myself or others ask other peoples opinions it doesnt mean i have to listen what u say, but it is right to appreciate others oppinions as u can see that i say after anyone replies politely to my messeges.So by all means if u dont wanna answere me than dont but if u do than thanks.
 

smoothounds

Member
Hey Cdub! Do you know how safe it would be to keep a lion in with my smoothounds? I couldnt help but notice your shark in there. Let me know.
 
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