Dwarf Seahorse Dietary Questions

dive girl

Member
In another thread Tom (ReefNut) mentioned that he's noticed that his DSH stop breeding after a while and he thinks it might be dietary, even though the ponies are healthy (paraphrasing here so Tom, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
Since I'm new to providing a home to ponies, I want to do the best that I can in mimicking their natural habitat. While baby brine shrimp may not be 'natural' it's what I am able to provide (enriched and newly hatched). I've also got copepods and rotifers that I supplement with.
What do you feed your ponies? What type of copepods? I've heard that the tigre (sp?) are not necessarily the best. What else should I be feeding?
 
Mine will only eat bbs...I think copepods are still to big for them....as to dietary and breeding I think there is a link...my first zots were wild caught and bred alot the first year....My oldest male passed a few months ago and he was HUGE for a dwarf , it was a sad day to lose big daddy.....He was alot older than the expected life span of a dwarf.....But I did notice that each generation had a few more babies each litter , but more died....so It's still an equal ratio I have even 3 1/2 years into them
 

reefnutpa

Member
You paraphrased me very well!! The oldest dwarfs I had in my care were just over 2 years old, since they were adult size when I got them I estimate they had to be at least 2.5 to 3 years old when they died.
The next oldest group were just about 1.5 years in my care, when a malfunctioning heater took out the tank a few months ago. There is only one survivor, and she is also in my care 1.5 years.
Of both groups, and all the ones of various ages in between, I had very few if any fry from any male that was in my care over a year. All the dwarfs were plump and happy - didn't lose any to disease or such. Really no explaination as to WHY they stopped breeding really. Since others have experienced the same issues, and when comparing notes the only common thing is the food. Perhaps it's enough to keep them happy and healthy, but just isn't enough to trigger them to breed after a certain point.
Or, perhaps, dwarfs only breed during their first year? Or, perhaps, temperature and lighting needs to be something specific? Or, perhaps, dwarfs breed to make sure their species continues and after you have a tank full of 50+ dwarfs they no longer feel the need to reproduce?
Some have reported by thinning out the herd and even by adding new pairs, it triggers the older dwarfs to reproduce again. I've never tried that, just repeating what I have been told.
I fed, and still feed, newly hatched bbs, 24 hour old bbs enriched with various items, tisbe pods and occassionally tiger pods. Tiger pods are ok for adult dwarfs - too big, IMO, for fry or small juvies.
The diet of dwarfs in the wild would be shrimp nauplii of various species along with various pods and such. We cannot really duplicate that diet in captivity. Some have tried harvesting fry from peppermint shrimp and the like, and feeding those out. But, you'd have to have a ton of peps reproducing to feed them as a daily diet for the life of the dwarfs.
I have no answers, honestly. What you are feeding is the most widely used foods - newly hatched bbs and/or enriched bbs along with supplemental feeding of pods. That's really all there is out there that is available.
Many, many people try keeping dwarfs. No offense to anyone - very few have the same dwarfs past the 6, 8, 12 month mark. So, it's hard to learn from others or form theories when many haven't had their dwarfs in long-term situations. Most dwarf keepers switch to the larger horses when theirs perish, especially if they've had them only 6 months or less. Figuring, they lived their life and they were successful so it's time to jump to the big horses.
What is really needed is a group learning session comprised of hobbyists that have the same dwarfs 1+ years to get together, compare notes, and find out if we are all having the same/similar things happen as the dwarfs age in our care. But, there aren't that many hobbyists out there that fit the mold on this website or others.
Tom
 

dive girl

Member
Thanks Tom. I'll look into tisbe pods and see if I can get some of those to add too. I hope to be one of the ones that will be able to have my herd for 1+ years. If I'm not successful I may be one of the ones that doesn't continue to try keep them as I feel like I've really studied up on their care and done the best that I can so that I can provide them with a good habitat. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I'm not successful with these, why would I be successful with another herd?
This morning, everyone looked sluggish in my tank. Water parameters were 72F degrees (I use a chiller to keep it as stable as possible), ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 0.5, ph 8.0 (I know it should be a little higher and am not sure why it isn't), sg 1.020, sal 27. I did a 2G water change/ 12G tank. I started my herd with 12 and now have 39; no deaths.
 

rykna

Active Member
Temps play a huge part of breeding.
Do you add any vitamin enrichment foods to the BBS before feeding?
The oldest pony I had was my large male Titan. He was going on five years until I had a complete tank crash.
 

dive girl

Member
5 years! whoa! When I feed I try to switch between either newly hatched BBS or BBS that have been gut loaded with an enrichment food I got from seahorse source.
 
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