elegance coral

dani

Member
Just got one today.. on impulse and
didn't do research prior to purchase
Am reading conflicting information on the internet. Anyone have 1 ? Any feedback would be great..
Right now I've placed it in low flow area just above substrate. It is partially shaded. (after what I've been reading)
I don't know when the LFS got it. But it was under MH, in moderate flow, and mid-tank.
thinking it may have been a bad impulse buy
 

mindcage133

New Member
From my experience, they are hard to keep and have a very big miss ratio to hit on survival. From what I've read, they seem to like "dirtier" water but I'm sure someone will chime in. goodluck! they are really nice looking corals,
 

spanko

Active Member
From wet web media.
1) Placed in horizontal orientation, point down, mouths and tentacles facing upward,
NOT in vertical settings as they are often arranged in reef systems. They really need to be placed "on their backs"
2) Semi-still waters. They come from settings with actually very little water movement,
NOT as many hobbyists place them; in full front of a powerhead’s constant blast.
Elegance corals need gentle, non-linear water movement.
3) Lighting, full spectrum, low-to medium intensity... provided by VHO or compact
fluorescents is fine. These are photosynthetic organisms, but remember, ones that live
in turbid, muddy water often shielded by overlying sea grasses (Thalassia). No need
for metal halides.
4) The need for organic nutrients: IMO, this coral should only be kept in a designated,
"species" set-up, in very-well established, fine sand and "mud" substrate, sea grass,
high nitrates (tens of ppm and up) are no problem and calcium, strontium... but still no
discernible soluble phosphates.
With this species you have to take care not to "over"skim, removing bio-useful
minerals and trace elements. These essential materials can be replaced through
feeding (see below), water changes, and live rock (and possibly sand) use.
5) Placement near other stinging-celled life: Don’t. These animals have a wide and
deadly stinging ability. In the wild there is a large area around them with no other
cnidarians. Keep them this way in captivity.
I know of many aquarists that periodically feed their Elegance corals, fine to chunky meaty foods... in a well/properly set-up and maintained setting I would abstain from offering purposeful foods. Just rely on photosynthesis... and nutrients that come from other biological activity in the system.
Conclusion:
The Waikiki Aquarium (Oahu, Hawai’i) has probably the best specialized "Elegance Coral Tank" I’ve ever seen. Let me describe this set-up for you (all
It has a few inches of fine sand, a bunch (really too many, I'd clear some so you could see the coral specimen) "seagrass" (in their case Thalassia hemprichii) a few fishes (a Phalaena goby, gorgeous green filefish, unid'ed rockfish of some sort), not much circulation, no added aeration, but bright light (the plants and algae were giving off obvious gas bubbles from the halides and sunlight (the roof is "missing")... and the specimen? It is alone, by itself, lying in the "mud/sand" horizontal on the bottom
Now, let me assure you, I've collected this (and other) Caryophyllid (the family of this, the Euphyllias like Frogspawn, hammer...) corals in the wild, and this is how all Elegance corals I've seen live: Horizontal, in relatively stagnant, grassy areas, with bright light, low circulation, with no other stinging celled animals around, in probably "high nutrient" settings
And how do aquarists by and large try to keep Catalaphyllias? In vertical orientations, with brisk, constant circulation, in almost nutrient-free water, with other aggressive stinging-celled animals...
Now, does all this make more/better/any sense? These animals are being kept in barely to un-tolerable conditions. They don't live in environments like your other corals at all. The places where I've seen them live are more like their wild conditions...
 

jpa0741

Member
If it is an Aussie elegance you have a fair chance of it doing well. If not chances are pretty slim. Once established they are fairly hardy. Also remeber to give it a lot of space. They have very long and potent sweepers. Mod flow and light is best.
 

dani

Member
Thanks for all the input!
I'm guessing my chances on this one are slim to none.. doh
It looks good today. I will have to rearrange the tank when I have a little more time. I don't have fine sand - it is CC. :( Right now is is perpendicular to the bottom due to the niche in the rocks where I put it. It is open and the sweepers are only extended about 1", so I'm guessing it's just tolerating and not the happiest.. It may have stung my bubble tip anemone (which was moved farther away but has moved itself), as it is not looking so great today. All other corals are at the other end of the tank.
I seem to have "dirtier" water as I can never get it pristine clear. I also fight the nitrates which seem to stay around 20ppm.
It is a very pretty coral and why the impulse took over in the decision... so I will chalk it up to another learning experience.
I haven't seen my fire shrimp
so it may have eaten it.
 

mr.clownfish

Active Member
its not that hard to take care of just make sure u place it away from coral because it is the most aggressive coral i know. feed it some small chunks of cut up shrimp. but when i had mine i feed it brine shrimp, so i would go with brine shrimp. and i had mine under 4x65 watt PC's
 

dani

Member
I've been feeding it mysis, just like my sun coral. I plan on moving it to the very end of the tank. Right now it is just to the right of the center. I have no control over the bubble tip. The BT has its own plan and I'm afraid it will cause its own death. I have current PC's - daylights and actinics.
 

dani

Member
:( My mushrooms are dying and my BTA is also dying. There is clear, stringy-like stuff all throughout the tank. This was not present before adding the elegance coral (which is looking good, I think)
The mushrooms edges are all up making them look like cups. A couple of them have the white stringy stuff coming from the mouths. The BTA is shriveling to nothing and looks like it's about to melt.
I think i've killed the coral in my tank by adding this new one.
The photos are not the greatest as my glass makes fuzzy pics. The BTA has the clear stringy stuff on it and the mushrooms (sorry it's such an awful pic) on the front of the rock and farthest away are the ones dying, i believe. Normally they are so big & open that you can't even see the rock they are on.



 

dani

Member
The ooze is definitely coming from the elegance coral. It is now all closed up.
The BTA has died.
Going to call LFS and see if they will take it back - probably the best option to prevent further losses in the tank
 

dani

Member
LFS won't take the elegance back :(
Kinda figured they'd do that.
I'm going to try another LFS around here and see if they'll take it for some sort of store credit.
If not, any other suggestions?
Or, if anyone is in the area and would like to trade ?
 

dani

Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3004378
From the looks of it ,i would say its pretty much a goner. Once it swells up and starts to slime its usually to late.
it's definitely sliming big time and I'm guessing this is why all the rest of the tank is po'd :/
no more elegance for me
 

dani

Member
elegance was doing well and looked great yesterday; came in today and it's looking partially dead
I'm guessing the clown moved it, as it's not in the spot I placed it, and it seems like the clown is guarding the territory (probably trying to host it as he lost his anemone).
the elegance has been trying to open on the one side; should I wait and see what it's doing or should I take it out?
 
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