Eury Jr. is gone!!!
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stdreb27
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Originally Posted by shogun323
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I am so happy. This is the best thing that could happen for the number 88!!!!!!!!!
It is nuts.
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It is nuts.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by reefraff
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This is what happens when a driver's talent never lives up to his hype. Jr is probably the most over hyped figure in sports. I will be interested to see how Eury does with another driver.
I don't think there is a lot of hype surrounding Jr. He has a huge following, but I think there is a difference between most popular and covered and hyped.
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This is what happens when a driver's talent never lives up to his hype. Jr is probably the most over hyped figure in sports. I will be interested to see how Eury does with another driver.
I don't think there is a lot of hype surrounding Jr. He has a huge following, but I think there is a difference between most popular and covered and hyped.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
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I don't think there is a lot of hype surrounding Jr. He has a huge following, but I think there is a difference between most popular and covered and hyped.
What has he done to gain the following? I mean there are popular sports stars that aren't all that successful but Jundork has been the face of NASCAR and has how many wins? It is like Danica Patric. You take away the T&A she is just another driver with a lucky win. If Jr. had his mother's last name he would be ignored.
http:///forum/post/3052237
I don't think there is a lot of hype surrounding Jr. He has a huge following, but I think there is a difference between most popular and covered and hyped.
What has he done to gain the following? I mean there are popular sports stars that aren't all that successful but Jundork has been the face of NASCAR and has how many wins? It is like Danica Patric. You take away the T&A she is just another driver with a lucky win. If Jr. had his mother's last name he would be ignored.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by reefraff
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What has he done to gain the following? I mean there are popular sports stars that aren't all that successful but Jundork has been the face of NASCAR and has how many wins? It is like Danica Patric. You take away the T&A she is just another driver with a lucky win. If Jr. had his mother's last name he would be ignored.
I never said he'd earned his popularity. My Jr. Friends don't deny one big that they are his fan because of his dad.
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What has he done to gain the following? I mean there are popular sports stars that aren't all that successful but Jundork has been the face of NASCAR and has how many wins? It is like Danica Patric. You take away the T&A she is just another driver with a lucky win. If Jr. had his mother's last name he would be ignored.
I never said he'd earned his popularity. My Jr. Friends don't deny one big that they are his fan because of his dad.
shogun323
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I agree that he certainly has the popularity solely because of the family legacy but he is a great driver. I believe if Hendricks gets the right cheif behind him we will see a lot better results.
Pretty much every race Jr. starts out great but as soon they start making adjustments on his car he starts moving back in the field.
Pretty much every race Jr. starts out great but as soon they start making adjustments on his car he starts moving back in the field.
stdreb27
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Lets face it, NASCAR is way to dependent on advertizing. So as long as he's the popular one. He'll have a ride, and more face time than anyone else. Because basically he's worth it, because of who he is.
He is a good driver, but then so is just about everyone else in the cup series.
He is a good driver, but then so is just about everyone else in the cup series.
shogun323
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
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Lets face it, NASCAR is way to dependent on advertizing. So as long as he's the popular one. He'll have a ride, and more face time than anyone else. Because basically he's worth it, because of who he is.
He is a good driver, but then so is just about everyone else in the cup series.
I agree with you 100%
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Lets face it, NASCAR is way to dependent on advertizing. So as long as he's the popular one. He'll have a ride, and more face time than anyone else. Because basically he's worth it, because of who he is.
He is a good driver, but then so is just about everyone else in the cup series.
I agree with you 100%
aquaknight
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Originally Posted by reefraff
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What has he done to gain the following? I mean there are popular sports stars that aren't all that successful but Jundork has been the face of NASCAR and has how many wins? It is like Danica Patric. You take away the T&A she is just another driver with a lucky win. If Jr. had his mother's last name he would be ignored.
Earnhardt Jr. has 18 Cup wins, 5 of those at Talladega, and a Daytona 500. As well as being the first rookie to win the All-Star race in 2000.
Just for comparsion, Matt Kenseth, who also started raced Cup in 2000, has 18 career Cup wins and Kurt Busch, started in 2000 too, has 19 wins. Danica has one IRL win at Motegi, in a series that doesn't have the competition NASCAR does.
Eury Jr. needed to go a long time ago. It's tough, by hey, this is business. Hopefully Jr. will get a good talented fresh-face as his crew cheif...
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What has he done to gain the following? I mean there are popular sports stars that aren't all that successful but Jundork has been the face of NASCAR and has how many wins? It is like Danica Patric. You take away the T&A she is just another driver with a lucky win. If Jr. had his mother's last name he would be ignored.
Earnhardt Jr. has 18 Cup wins, 5 of those at Talladega, and a Daytona 500. As well as being the first rookie to win the All-Star race in 2000.
Just for comparsion, Matt Kenseth, who also started raced Cup in 2000, has 18 career Cup wins and Kurt Busch, started in 2000 too, has 19 wins. Danica has one IRL win at Motegi, in a series that doesn't have the competition NASCAR does.
Eury Jr. needed to go a long time ago. It's tough, by hey, this is business. Hopefully Jr. will get a good talented fresh-face as his crew cheif...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
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Earnhardt Jr. has 18 Cup wins, 5 of those at Talladega, and a Daytona 500. As well as being the first rookie to win the All-Star race in 2000.
Just for comparsion, Matt Kenseth, who also started raced Cup in 2000, has 18 career Cup wins and Kurt Busch, started in 2000 too, has 19 wins. Danica has one IRL win at Motegi, in a series that doesn't have the competition NASCAR does.
Eury Jr. needed to go a long time ago. It's tough, by hey, this is business. Hopefully Jr. will get a good talented fresh-face as his crew cheif...
How many races has Jr. won the last 3 years?
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Earnhardt Jr. has 18 Cup wins, 5 of those at Talladega, and a Daytona 500. As well as being the first rookie to win the All-Star race in 2000.
Just for comparsion, Matt Kenseth, who also started raced Cup in 2000, has 18 career Cup wins and Kurt Busch, started in 2000 too, has 19 wins. Danica has one IRL win at Motegi, in a series that doesn't have the competition NASCAR does.
Eury Jr. needed to go a long time ago. It's tough, by hey, this is business. Hopefully Jr. will get a good talented fresh-face as his crew cheif...
How many races has Jr. won the last 3 years?
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by reefraff
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How many races has Jr. won the last 3 years?
how many championships does kurt and matt have?
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How many races has Jr. won the last 3 years?
how many championships does kurt and matt have?
aquaknight
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Originally Posted by reefraff
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How many races has Jr. won the last 3 years?
2, one in 2006, one in 2008. Out of a 43 car field, 2 wins in the last 3 years still ranks Jr. in the top 80th percentile.
Originally Posted by stdreb27
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how many championships does kurt and matt have?
1 a piece. However both Matt's and Kurt's championships will go down as some of the absolutely worst in the history of NASCAR. Matt won 1 race during his champ season, and Kurt won 3, 2 of those being New Hampshire wins
Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/3052794
since 2005 we have seen 16 back flips...
Jr is way over hyped and a new crew chief isnt gonna get him wins...
I really don't see what this is about.... The fact of the matter is that there is a 43 car field in the Cup series and Jr. is tied for 9th for all-time wins among active drivers. He certainly deserves to have a car in the field.
If you want to talk about wins in a short time period, or even championships, look at Jimmie Johnson. Nothing Carl's done, comes remotely close to the accomplishments Jimmie and Chad have achieved with the 48 team.
Does this mean Edwards team should be cut, cuz they ain't cutting the mustard like the 48 team?
reefraff
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
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how many championships does kurt and matt have?
Do we see Kurt and Matt on the TV every 5 minutes?
Jundork has never won the championship, has 1 point cup win in the last 3 years. I think he and Danica Patrick should get married. They could sell the rights to televise the ceremony and make a few million a piece on the deal
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how many championships does kurt and matt have?
Do we see Kurt and Matt on the TV every 5 minutes?
Jundork has never won the championship, has 1 point cup win in the last 3 years. I think he and Danica Patrick should get married. They could sell the rights to televise the ceremony and make a few million a piece on the deal
reefraff
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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
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2, one in 2006, one in 2008. Out of a 43 car field, 2 wins in the last 3 years still ranks Jr. in the top 80th percentile.
1 a piece. However both Matt's and Kurt's championships will go down as some of the absolutely worst in the history of NASCAR. Matt won 1 race during his champ season, and Kurt won 3, 2 of those being New Hampshire wins
I really don't see what this is about.... The fact of the matter is that there is a 43 car field in the Cup series and Jr. is tied for 9th for all-time wins among active drivers. He certainly deserves to have a car in the field.
If you want to talk about wins in a short time period, or even championships, look at Jimmie Johnson. Nothing Carl's done, comes remotely close to the accomplishments Jimmie and Chad have achieved with the 48 team.
Does this mean Edwards team should be cut, cuz they ain't cutting the mustard like the 48 team?
The whole NASCAR point system is a joke. It needs to be weighted more heavily for race wins. I am a big Rouche fan since his drag race engine building days but have to agree Kennseth's championship win was a joke, Bushes sorta, at least he did get more than 1 win.
I think maybe expand the "chase" to 15 cars 15 races. Keep the current system for qualifying for the chase but once the dash for the cash starts make it about who has the most wins in the final 15. That should keep the winner in doubt at least into the final 5 races every year. You could make it interesting as far as who had the best regular season by awarding qualifying time bonuses based on their finish in the "regular season". I'd also like to see a rule where if a non chase driver were to with the majority of chase races they could "steal" the championship. I don't think it would happen very often but there would be years where someone has a shot at it.
